1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:20,630 Speaker 0: It's office hours. With me, Chris. Hello, everyone. Welcome back into the office. Yes. The door is officially open again and look who's taking the best seat in the house. It's Brentley. Hey, Brent. Well, hello. Jesus, this place has really changed since the last time we did this. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,780 Speaker 0: With me, Chris. 3 00:00:07,984 --> 00:00:20,630 Speaker 0: Hello, everyone. Welcome back into the office. Yes. The door is officially open again and look who's taking the best seat in the house. It's Brentley. Hey, Brent. Well, hello. Jesus, this place has really changed since the last time we did this. 4 00:00:21,090 --> 00:00:23,990 Speaker 2: Yeah. I went for a new theme. You know, real modern looking. 5 00:00:24,369 --> 00:00:27,675 Speaker 1: It's a bit too much mauve for me, though. Oh, 6 00:00:28,074 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: I got, but I got a great deal on eBay. Just eventually, I think that cat piecemeal would put out, but probably makes you feel at home, I am married now. Hey, guess what? We're back. Office hours is now a full podcasting two point zero feed. It's official, it's real, and it's the first show on Jupiter Broadcasting to achieve this milestone. And it was made possible by our boosters, by our members, Really seriously. It absolutely was made possible by your support because we hit pause for a moment, and we re architected some of the back end, which we covered on pocket. One and pocket two. But I just want to take a second and say thank you because with that time, the show will now have cloud chapters Some of those chapters will also have special art. So check your podcast player from time to time. It's the first show to officially have transcripts with each release. And for the very first time, we're going to attempt in the show the time value splits, which will have more information and a little deets about that soon. But also, the show is being distributed over IPFS podcasting, which is amazing, and a special shout out to everybody out there who's contacted me and said, hey, I've set up a node, and I'm pinning office hours. We really appreciate that. Thank you everybody out there. You get a special bell. That's for you for helping support and distribute the office hours podcast. And please more consider joining because I have a lot more work to do, but Brent, you know, it's one of those things where we mentioned on the shows. We didn't even really make a direct call. Maybe maybe we suggested it. I don't know. But I've heard from several people that after listening to, I think, pocket one went out and spun up their own IPFS podcasting 7 00:00:38,020 --> 00:00:41,079 Speaker 2: Hey, guess what? We're back. Office hours is now 8 00:00:41,460 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: a full podcasting two point zero feed. 9 00:00:45,565 --> 00:00:51,105 Speaker 2: It's official, it's real, and it's the first show on Jupiter Broadcasting to achieve this milestone. 10 00:00:51,645 --> 00:00:55,105 Speaker 2: And it was made possible by our boosters, by our members, 11 00:00:55,470 --> 00:01:04,130 Speaker 2: Really seriously. It absolutely was made possible by your support because we hit pause for a moment, and we re architected some of the back end, which we covered on pocket. 12 00:01:04,475 --> 00:01:09,055 Speaker 2: One and pocket two. But I just want to take a second and say thank you because with that time, 13 00:01:09,595 --> 00:01:15,830 Speaker 2: the show will now have cloud chapters Some of those chapters will also have special art. So check your podcast player from time to time. 14 00:01:16,370 --> 00:01:19,510 Speaker 2: It's the first show to officially have transcripts with each release. 15 00:01:20,065 --> 00:01:27,604 Speaker 2: And for the very first time, we're going to attempt in the show the time value splits, which will have more information and a little deets about that soon. 16 00:01:27,930 --> 00:01:28,670 Speaker 2: But also, 17 00:01:29,369 --> 00:01:31,549 Speaker 2: the show is being distributed over IPFS 18 00:01:31,850 --> 00:01:32,350 Speaker 2: podcasting, 19 00:01:32,729 --> 00:01:40,395 Speaker 2: which is amazing, and a special shout out to everybody out there who's contacted me and said, hey, I've set up a node, and I'm pinning 20 00:01:40,775 --> 00:01:44,475 Speaker 2: office hours. We really appreciate that. Thank you everybody out there. 21 00:01:44,970 --> 00:01:46,270 Speaker 2: You get a special bell. 22 00:01:46,890 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: That's for you for helping support and distribute the office hours podcast. And please more consider joining because I have a lot more work to do, but Brent, you know, it's one of those things where we mentioned on the shows. We didn't even really make a direct call. Maybe maybe we suggested it. I don't know. But I've heard from several people that after listening to, I think, pocket one went out and spun up their own IPFS podcasting 23 00:02:08,980 --> 00:02:16,955 Speaker 1: notes. You know, I say this often. You can hear me saying it quite often, but we've cut the best audience. Alright. Listen. Are just they're the sweetest. 24 00:02:14,695 --> 00:02:16,955 Speaker 1: Alright. Listen. Are just they're the sweetest. 25 00:02:17,370 --> 00:02:41,140 Speaker 2: And maybe they wanna make a little money. Because speaking of the podcasting two dot o apps, Podverse has put out a twelve hundred dollar bounty for completed Android auto support. For Podverse. They have a GitHub repo, I believe, Android Auto with, a note pinned regarding this bounty. This is a big one. Twelve hundred bucks. For helping out an open source project at Android auto support. Well, I would imagine if someone went for this, they could, 26 00:02:21,530 --> 00:02:24,510 Speaker 2: Podverse has put out a twelve hundred dollar bounty 27 00:02:24,890 --> 00:02:26,990 Speaker 2: for completed Android auto support. 28 00:02:27,595 --> 00:02:28,335 Speaker 2: For Podverse. 29 00:02:29,195 --> 00:02:33,455 Speaker 2: They have a GitHub repo, I believe, Android Auto with, a note pinned regarding this bounty. 30 00:02:33,835 --> 00:02:41,140 Speaker 2: This is a big one. Twelve hundred bucks. For helping out an open source project at Android auto support. Well, I would imagine if someone went for this, they could, 31 00:02:41,780 --> 00:02:51,665 Speaker 1: you know, eventually just get to be a bigger part of the project. So it might be kind of a neat opportunity as well to sink your teeth into something you know, and then maybe, I don't know, be part of a really cool team. 32 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,500 Speaker 2: So you're back, but for how long, right? Are you're you're going back to Berlin 33 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, I think? I am. Yeah. Is it Checking calendar, is it two weeks? I think it's two weeks, which makes me kind of realize that my life is a bit insane. Help. Yeah. You know, I I don't really understand how you manage it. You might as well just stay over there at this point. You you know, you should move in. It's the kind of rhythm where I feel like just as I get home and I remember what I'm supposed to be doing here, and I get back into the rhythms, it's like, oh, time to go. And, that's exactly where I am. That's how I feel. It's, both very exciting and, mildly awful. 34 00:03:09,820 --> 00:03:28,260 Speaker 1: Help. Yeah. You know, I I don't really understand how you manage it. You might as well just stay over there at this point. You you know, you should move in. It's the kind of rhythm where I feel like just as I get home and I remember what I'm supposed to be doing here, and I get back into the rhythms, it's like, oh, time to go. And, that's exactly where I am. That's how I feel. It's, 35 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: both very exciting and, 36 00:03:30,980 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: mildly awful. 37 00:03:33,015 --> 00:03:44,710 Speaker 2: Well, Brent's travel struggles are your wins audience because he is hosting another meetup. On Friday, September eighth at the next cloud offices. These have been pretty popular. 38 00:03:35,415 --> 00:03:39,515 Speaker 2: are your wins audience because he is hosting another meetup. 39 00:03:39,970 --> 00:03:42,870 Speaker 2: On Friday, September eighth at the next cloud offices. 40 00:03:43,330 --> 00:03:44,710 Speaker 2: These have been pretty popular. 41 00:03:45,330 --> 00:04:23,530 Speaker 1: They've been really fun. I, you know, it's always nice to see old faces. I can say that now because it's been many months since I've met some of these wonderful folks. But always, like, fifty percent are new people, and I think that's really great. I tried with this one to plan it a little bit ahead. So, hopefully, some people are able to travel from areas that maybe were a bit more challenging with some of the you know, lesser heads up that we've been giving in the last little bit. So I'm very much looking forward to meeting some folks. And, gonna try to come up with something special for this one. We shall see. I don't wanna spill the beans yet because I just wanna make sure that it's actually gonna happen. But I'm trying. 42 00:04:03,050 --> 00:04:13,775 Speaker 1: travel from areas that maybe were a bit more challenging with some of the you know, lesser heads up that we've been giving in the last little bit. So I'm very much looking forward to meeting some folks. And, 43 00:04:14,870 --> 00:04:23,530 Speaker 1: gonna try to come up with something special for this one. We shall see. I don't wanna spill the beans yet because I just wanna make sure that it's actually gonna happen. But I'm trying. 44 00:04:24,035 --> 00:04:59,485 Speaker 2: Things are moving behind the scenes it sounds like. Behind the scenes. Machinations as it were. I I don't know. I have a meetup as well. Don't think it's gonna happen. What? I think we've had like two people signing up. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's too close to Linuxfest. Maybe I waited too long. I promised the Spokane group in Eastern Washington in the Idaho area. It's I promised a year or two ago that we tried to do a meetup and then, you know, the last couple of years have been crazy. So I was trying to do it make good, Saturday, September sixteenth at iron goat brewing at one PM. But, yeah. 45 00:04:28,355 --> 00:04:29,175 Speaker 2: as it were. 46 00:04:30,115 --> 00:04:37,050 Speaker 2: I I don't know. I have a meetup as well. Don't think it's gonna happen. What? I think we've had like two people signing up. Oh, no. 47 00:04:37,910 --> 00:04:41,450 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's too close to Linuxfest. Maybe I waited too long. 48 00:04:42,175 --> 00:04:57,770 Speaker 2: I promised the Spokane group in Eastern Washington in the Idaho area. It's I promised a year or two ago that we tried to do a meetup and then, you know, the last couple of years have been crazy. So I was trying to do it make good, Saturday, September sixteenth at iron goat brewing at one PM. 49 00:04:58,665 --> 00:04:59,485 Speaker 2: But, yeah. 50 00:05:00,185 --> 00:05:33,460 Speaker 1: It's like JB people and an audience member too. I see I'm included on that list, which I think I'm in Berlin at the time. So maybe I should remove myself. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not even, yeah, it's even less than what's on there. Right? I wish I could go, though. I, you know, I've heard so many great things about spoken and I've only driven through and never you know, spend some time there. So I I I was really looking forward to this for the last couple of years, and here I am gonna miss it. Maybe the wildfires are throwing people for a loop. You know, and they don't You blaming me again? No. Spokean has its own fault. Oh, they they have the ability of having fires. 51 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:33,460 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So it's not even, yeah, it's even less than what's on there. Right? I wish I could go, though. I, you know, I've heard so many great things about spoken and I've only driven through and never you know, spend some time there. So I I I was really looking forward to this for the last couple of years, and here I am gonna miss it. Maybe the wildfires are throwing people for a loop. You know, and they don't You blaming me again? No. Spokean has its own fault. Oh, they they have the ability of having fires. 52 00:05:34,080 --> 00:06:54,700 Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Sorry. They can do that too. Yeah. They're pretty good at it sometimes. Is it smoke in now? I'm I'm sure they've never heard that before. Oh. We'll see. I'll leave it up on the meet a page we start getting some bites, we'll go for it. Otherwise, how many people how many people do you need? How many? I mean, I'd I'd go out there for a handful -- Alright. -- a dozen or so. I'd love to see. I'd love I know we have a lot of people in the area just from how many folks had reached out in the past, but, you know, ego or the audience. Where the audience leads you. And honestly, maybe it's just people figure I'm gonna make the trek for Linux Fest, that's good enough. And I would rather if they could only come to one, they come to Linux Fest. I will agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be it's gonna be a lot of work. We're gonna be on cooking duty on Saturday. We're gonna try to feed the fest. And, you know, we don't even really know how many people are gonna show up. And how many then how many people are gonna want a lunch cooked by us? Yeah. And I mean, we have a lot of experience with doing that in the past, but because of the hiatus and stuff, yeah. You're right. And it's there might be too many brats. I don't even I don't even know how to find the barbecue big enough to cook for, like, five, six hundred people. That's my estimation. It's like, you know, Maybe we'll get a couple thousand because the peak used to be like five thousand. This is a big deal. Are we ready for this? Like, I don't know if we have the means of No. 53 00:05:36,255 --> 00:05:38,835 Speaker 2: Yeah. They're pretty good at it sometimes. Is it smoke in now? 54 00:05:40,175 --> 00:05:46,990 Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure they've never heard that before. Oh. We'll see. I'll leave it up on the meet a page we start getting some bites, we'll go for it. Otherwise, 55 00:05:47,690 --> 00:05:58,264 Speaker 2: how many people how many people do you need? How many? I mean, I'd I'd go out there for a handful -- Alright. -- a dozen or so. I'd love to see. I'd love I know we have a lot of people in the area just from how many folks had reached out in the past, 56 00:05:59,044 --> 00:06:03,190 Speaker 2: but, you know, ego or the audience. Where the audience leads you. And honestly, 57 00:06:03,970 --> 00:06:12,215 Speaker 2: maybe it's just people figure I'm gonna make the trek for Linux Fest, that's good enough. And I would rather if they could only come to one, they come to Linux Fest. I will agree with that. 58 00:06:12,595 --> 00:06:14,294 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be 59 00:06:14,595 --> 00:06:18,534 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of work. We're gonna be on cooking duty on Saturday. 60 00:06:19,139 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: We're gonna try to feed the fest. 61 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:36,194 Speaker 2: And, you know, we don't even really know how many people are gonna show up. And how many then how many people are gonna want a lunch cooked by us? Yeah. And I mean, we have a lot of experience with doing that in the past, but because of the hiatus and stuff, yeah. You're right. And it's there might be too many brats. 62 00:06:36,729 --> 00:06:40,509 Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even know how to find the barbecue big enough 63 00:06:41,050 --> 00:06:54,700 Speaker 2: to cook for, like, five, six hundred people. That's my estimation. It's like, you know, Maybe we'll get a couple thousand because the peak used to be like five thousand. This is a big deal. Are we ready for this? Like, I don't know if we have the means of No. 64 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:55,660 Speaker 1: No. 65 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:51,095 Speaker 2: No. We're gonna need some cooked crew. We're gonna need we're gonna need the audience to help us with the cooking people run the, you know, we're gonna have to make essentially a manufacturing pipeline of food. And we're gonna need people to run that manufacturing pipeline of food. And, you know, I'm such an idiot too because so, you know, let's say lunch runs eleven thirty to one. Well, we're gonna have to start getting set up around ten. I think the fast opens, like, at nine. Chris. So, like, we're there for, like, the first hour, and then I gotta go start making lunch. And So I'm gonna have to, like, not be there for some of it because I have to be at the booth and on the live stream. So we're gonna need some people to do some of cooking because I'm gonna have to do some of it too. Obviously, I can't do. No. I I just don't know. I we're gonna start a new thing, like the parking lot track. It's my own fault. It's because when we did do our little community feed and we fed, like, three hundred people, it was such a huge hit. It became like something everybody talked about at in the fest organization. 66 00:07:04,565 --> 00:07:11,860 Speaker 2: a manufacturing pipeline of food. And we're gonna need people to run that manufacturing pipeline of food. And, you know, I'm such an idiot too because 67 00:07:12,420 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: so, you know, let's say lunch runs eleven thirty to one. 68 00:07:16,260 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: Well, 69 00:07:17,145 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to start getting set up around ten. I think the fast opens, like, at nine. Chris. So, like, we're there for, like, the first hour, and then I gotta go start making lunch. And 70 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:41,335 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to, like, not be there for some of it because I have to be at the booth and on the live stream. So we're gonna need some people to do some of cooking because I'm gonna have to do some of it too. Obviously, I can't do. No. I I just don't know. I we're gonna start a new thing, like the parking lot track. It's my own fault. 71 00:07:41,690 --> 00:07:51,095 Speaker 2: It's because when we did do our little community feed and we fed, like, three hundred people, it was such a huge hit. It became like something everybody talked about at in the fest organization. 72 00:07:51,795 --> 00:08:00,055 Speaker 1: And it's announced like Jupiter broadcasting is known for feeding people. Oh, man. Yeah. If you wanna win people's hearts, it's through food. And you've definitely succeeded there. 73 00:08:00,660 --> 00:13:31,225 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll just before somebody gets their burger or their dog or something, they'll have to download an episode. You know? It's it's a fair trade. Right? Yeah. I thought so. Or sat sat sausages or something. So if the meter doesn't work out, it's okay because I got plenty of other things to worry about. However, I really would love to get out there. See some folks. It's been far too long. And maybe some folks can't make it to Linuxfest, but they could make it to the meetup. So details at meetup dot com slash Jupyter broadcasting. So let's get into some pretty new developments in podcasting two point zero and something that's taken off in a phenomenal way since our last proper episode. So it's really hasn't been that long, but it's been long enough for this thing to become a phenomenon. And I've been reflecting on why, and I might have, I might have a couple of insights or two. And through this process, I've actually gotten some really interesting insights into the music industry as well. I've been watching a new type of podcast blossom in the middle of what has otherwise been an ad winter. And we've seen more podcast shutting down. We've seen podcast economic models that have completely collapsed. We've seen pod fading since the pandemic where everybody fired up a podcast. And kind of almost seemingly out of nowhere. An entirely new genre of podcast has been created. And the end result is that music artists are making more money from a single podcast than they ever made in their entire lifetime contract with having their tracks on Spotify or bandcamp or other places. It's amazing. And it I started watching this with one artist and then another artist, and now a third artist who have made more revenue through a value for value enabled music feed than they ever did from the commercial streaming platforms. And we've seen a multitude now of music focused podcasts that can legally play music from the artist in their podcast without having to go through a a Spotify contract or without having to get some sort of general license that isn't even really available podcastors, it's only available to radio station. So your podcast has to has to be produced by a radio station. Podcasts didn't have access to this music. And now the middle man has been completely cut out. And when you when you when you cut them out, the artist may significantly more revenue, even if overall the numbers were talking here like a thousand dollars. But if they've only ever made seventy bucks from Spotify over the lifetime, of their Spotify contract. Making a thousand dollars from a single track from one podcast is kind of a life changing event. And so we're seeing WAV Lake WAV Lake and L. N. Beats and other directories that are launching that feature independent music that is value for value boost enabled. And then podcasters are using this with a new podcasting two dot o spec called the value time split to send the boost amounts that are sent while the song's playing during the podcast directly to the artist. Let me back up and explain what I'm talking about here. There is a new specification for podcasting two dot o that can be put in the value block that says during this runtime to this end time, send the boost amounts at this percent a split, whatever you whatever the podcaster determines, At this percentage, some people are doing a hundred percent. Some are doing ninety five percent, so that way they can still see the messages. But but take redirect the boost that come in from this runtime to this runtime. Redirect them to this lightning address or to these separate splits. It's essentially redirecting the splits for a period of time during the song. What that enables is the ability for a podcaster to feature an artist song, an independent artist song, And during the runtime of that song, if you boost into the podcast, the artist receives those sets. And it's taking off like crazy right now. And I got a couple of podcasts I wanna recommend, Brentley, and I know you know which ones I'm about to talk about. So you can make a disclaimer. They're a little crazy. They're a little out there. Bring it on. Alright. Alright. So one that, I think is just outrageously unique. I've been doing this for eighteen years. I've never seen a podcast this unique. In my life, it's called behind the schemes. And these guys managed to put together the most low key easy listen. I think I've ever heard. And somehow They make tarot card readings seem totally normal and appropriate in the card or in the show while they're reading tarot cards, and they'll integrate music and do the value time split. And something else they do in their production, which is very clever, is they publish their pre and post show separately from the main show in the feed. And the pre and post shows are just full of music, and every song they feature is in that value time split and gets a boost. And so they'll play, you know, an hour's worth of music. And every track, the splits are getting redirected to those artists. And it's just they're hanging out on their stream. They're playing music. They're releasing it in an RSS feed. They're playing the tracks. The artists are getting the sets. It's it's pretty neat. And it's a it's a way out there show, but it's like nothing else. It's such a great listen, especially if you, you know, if you're slightly inebriated, I suppose, because I suspect sometimes the hosts are. 74 00:08:08,260 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: Right? 75 00:08:09,385 --> 00:08:16,605 Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought so. Or sat sat sausages or something. So if the meter doesn't work out, it's okay because I got plenty of other things to worry about. However, 76 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:24,580 Speaker 2: I really would love to get out there. See some folks. It's been far too long. And maybe some folks can't make it to Linuxfest, but they could make it to the meetup. So details 77 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,580 Speaker 2: at meetup dot com slash 78 00:08:27,015 --> 00:08:27,915 Speaker 2: Jupyter broadcasting. 79 00:08:28,535 --> 00:08:30,555 Speaker 2: So let's get into some pretty 80 00:08:31,495 --> 00:08:32,315 Speaker 2: new developments 81 00:08:32,775 --> 00:08:36,075 Speaker 2: in podcasting two point zero and something that's taken off 82 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:43,900 Speaker 2: in a phenomenal way since our last proper episode. So it's really hasn't been that long, but it's been long enough for this thing to become a phenomenon. 83 00:08:44,515 --> 00:08:45,015 Speaker 2: And 84 00:08:45,635 --> 00:08:56,980 Speaker 2: I've been reflecting on why, and I might have, I might have a couple of insights or two. And through this process, I've actually gotten some really interesting insights into the music industry as well. I've been watching 85 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,700 Speaker 2: a new type of podcast blossom 86 00:09:00,245 --> 00:09:03,385 Speaker 2: in the middle of what has otherwise been an ad winter. 87 00:09:03,765 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: And we've seen more podcast shutting down. We've seen podcast economic models that have completely collapsed. We've seen pod fading since the pandemic where everybody fired up a podcast. 88 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: And kind of almost seemingly out of nowhere. 89 00:09:18,385 --> 00:09:20,725 Speaker 2: An entirely new genre of podcast 90 00:09:21,425 --> 00:09:22,565 Speaker 2: has been created. 91 00:09:23,345 --> 00:09:24,645 Speaker 2: And the end result 92 00:09:25,185 --> 00:09:26,565 Speaker 2: is that music artists 93 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,380 Speaker 2: are making more money from a single podcast 94 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,860 Speaker 2: than they ever made in their entire lifetime contract with having their tracks on Spotify 95 00:09:36,255 --> 00:09:36,995 Speaker 2: or bandcamp 96 00:09:37,615 --> 00:09:38,755 Speaker 2: or other places. 97 00:09:39,695 --> 00:09:45,555 Speaker 2: It's amazing. And it I started watching this with one artist and then another artist, and now a third artist 98 00:09:45,970 --> 00:09:46,870 Speaker 2: who have made 99 00:09:47,810 --> 00:09:48,710 Speaker 2: more revenue 100 00:09:49,650 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: through a value for value enabled music feed than they ever did from the commercial streaming platforms. 101 00:09:56,725 --> 00:09:57,225 Speaker 2: And 102 00:09:57,765 --> 00:10:03,465 Speaker 2: we've seen a multitude now of music focused podcasts that can legally play music 103 00:10:04,060 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: from the artist 104 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: in their podcast 105 00:10:07,020 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: without having to go through a a Spotify contract 106 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:17,945 Speaker 2: or without having to get some sort of general license that isn't even really available podcastors, it's only available to radio station. So your podcast has to has to be produced by a radio station. 107 00:10:18,565 --> 00:10:20,825 Speaker 2: Podcasts didn't have access to this music. 108 00:10:21,450 --> 00:10:24,190 Speaker 2: And now the middle man has been completely cut out. 109 00:10:25,050 --> 00:10:26,590 Speaker 2: And when you when you 110 00:10:27,050 --> 00:10:33,565 Speaker 2: when you cut them out, the artist may significantly more revenue, even if overall the numbers were talking here like a thousand dollars. 111 00:10:34,265 --> 00:10:37,725 Speaker 2: But if they've only ever made seventy bucks from Spotify over the lifetime, 112 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: of their Spotify contract. 113 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:50,175 Speaker 2: Making a thousand dollars from a single track from one podcast is kind of a life changing event. And so we're seeing WAV Lake WAV Lake and L. N. Beats 114 00:10:50,795 --> 00:10:52,815 Speaker 2: and other directories that are launching 115 00:10:53,355 --> 00:10:54,105 Speaker 2: that feature 116 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,260 Speaker 2: independent music 117 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,900 Speaker 2: that is value for value boost enabled. 118 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:00,660 Speaker 2: And then podcasters 119 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,420 Speaker 2: are using this 120 00:11:03,145 --> 00:11:07,005 Speaker 2: with a new podcasting two dot o spec called the value time split 121 00:11:08,505 --> 00:11:14,980 Speaker 2: to send the boost amounts that are sent while the song's playing during the podcast directly to the artist. Let me back up and explain what I'm talking about here. 122 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:25,045 Speaker 2: There is a new specification for podcasting two dot o that can be put in the value block that says during this runtime to this end time, 123 00:11:25,825 --> 00:11:30,095 Speaker 2: send the boost amounts at this percent a split, whatever you whatever the podcaster determines, 124 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:36,660 Speaker 2: At this percentage, some people are doing a hundred percent. Some are doing ninety five percent, so that way they can still see the messages. 125 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:43,024 Speaker 2: But but take redirect the boost that come in from this runtime to this runtime. Redirect them to this lightning address or to these separate splits. 126 00:11:47,529 --> 00:11:51,149 Speaker 2: It's essentially redirecting the splits for a period of time during the song. 127 00:11:51,529 --> 00:12:01,095 Speaker 2: What that enables is the ability for a podcaster to feature an artist song, an independent artist song, And during the runtime of that song, if you boost into the podcast, 128 00:12:01,554 --> 00:12:03,814 Speaker 2: the artist receives those sets. 129 00:12:04,569 --> 00:12:17,225 Speaker 2: And it's taking off like crazy right now. And I got a couple of podcasts I wanna recommend, Brentley, and I know you know which ones I'm about to talk about. So you can make a disclaimer. They're a little crazy. They're a little out there. Bring it on. Alright. 130 00:12:18,085 --> 00:12:18,585 Speaker 2: Alright. 131 00:12:18,965 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: So one that, I think is just outrageously 132 00:12:22,340 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: unique. 133 00:12:23,380 --> 00:12:29,730 Speaker 2: I've been doing this for eighteen years. I've never seen a podcast this unique. In my life, it's called behind the schemes. 134 00:12:30,235 --> 00:12:33,135 Speaker 2: And these guys managed to put together the most 135 00:12:33,675 --> 00:12:36,895 Speaker 2: low key easy listen. I think I've ever heard. And somehow 136 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: They make tarot card readings seem totally normal and appropriate in the card or in the show while they're reading tarot cards, and they'll integrate music and do the value time split. 137 00:12:46,985 --> 00:12:48,765 Speaker 2: And something else they do in their production, 138 00:12:49,545 --> 00:12:51,005 Speaker 2: which is very clever, 139 00:12:51,464 --> 00:13:01,230 Speaker 2: is they publish their pre and post show separately from the main show in the feed. And the pre and post shows are just full of music, and every song they feature 140 00:13:02,170 --> 00:13:04,750 Speaker 2: is in that value time split and gets a boost. 141 00:13:05,225 --> 00:13:08,365 Speaker 2: And so they'll play, you know, an hour's worth of music. 142 00:13:08,825 --> 00:13:09,965 Speaker 2: And every track, 143 00:13:10,345 --> 00:13:12,525 Speaker 2: the splits are getting redirected to those artists. 144 00:13:13,300 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: And it's just they're hanging out on their stream. They're playing music. They're releasing it in an RSS feed. 145 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:31,225 Speaker 2: They're playing the tracks. The artists are getting the sets. It's it's pretty neat. And it's a it's a way out there show, but it's like nothing else. It's such a great listen, especially if you, you know, if you're slightly inebriated, I suppose, because I suspect sometimes the hosts are. 146 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:59,415 Speaker 1: It sounds like a good time though. This one's a little hard to find, so I'm sure we'll we'll link it up. But, but it you you gave me a little taste of one of their intros, which was lengthy, but not a moment of it was, lame. You know, it was like the entire thing was an experience, like a roller coaster ride of just it was wonderful. So I would highly Phenomenal production over there. I mean, just the The work 147 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:42,785 Speaker 1: This one's a little hard to find, so I'm sure we'll we'll link it up. But, but it you you gave me a little taste of one of their intros, which was 148 00:13:43,965 --> 00:13:44,465 Speaker 1: lengthy, 149 00:13:45,405 --> 00:13:47,435 Speaker 1: but not a moment of it was, 150 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:59,415 Speaker 1: lame. You know, it was like the entire thing was an experience, like a roller coaster ride of just it was wonderful. So I would highly Phenomenal production over there. I mean, just the The work 151 00:13:59,895 --> 00:15:22,870 Speaker 2: I know the kind of work they're putting into that show, and it's it's amazing. Everything everything from the artwork to the way they com you compose the show to the clips and the intros. It's they make it seem really easy, but it's they're doing a fantastic job. Another one that falls into that category is the podfather has a brand new music genre podcast called the Boostagram Ball. And it's very much Adam's vibe and I love it. He's got four episodes out now. It's the same it's the same dealio. You know, he it's this one's more of a just a pure music song, show, whereas behind the schemes is kind of a variety show. This is it starts with music, you know, Adam transitions through through a few songs, reads a few boosts from time to time, but it's really focused on the music. So if it's like an hour long, you're gonna get pretty much like fifty five minutes of music probably are pretty close, but they're independent tracks and Adam links to them all. So if you like one, you can you can go find it later, but also all of these are chapter market. That's part of how this works is each song gets a chapter in the podcast. So if you don't like a song, you just skip to the next chapter. Easy peasy. And you can easily get the song name because the chapter and often depending on your podcast player. The podcast artwork, the album art will change to the album art of the music that's playing, and then we'll change back to the podcast after the music is over. 152 00:14:06,790 --> 00:14:10,950 Speaker 2: to the way they com you compose the show to the clips and the intros. It's 153 00:14:11,830 --> 00:14:15,370 Speaker 2: they make it seem really easy, but it's they're doing a fantastic job. 154 00:14:15,775 --> 00:14:25,475 Speaker 2: Another one that falls into that category is the podfather has a brand new music genre podcast called the Boostagram Ball. And it's very much Adam's vibe and I love it. 155 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,940 Speaker 2: He's got four episodes out now. 156 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,180 Speaker 2: It's the same it's the same dealio. 157 00:14:30,640 --> 00:15:05,610 Speaker 2: You know, he it's this one's more of a just a pure music song, show, whereas behind the schemes is kind of a variety show. This is it starts with music, you know, Adam transitions through through a few songs, reads a few boosts from time to time, but it's really focused on the music. So if it's like an hour long, you're gonna get pretty much like fifty five minutes of music probably are pretty close, but they're independent tracks and Adam links to them all. So if you like one, you can you can go find it later, but also all of these are chapter market. That's part of how this works is each song gets a chapter in the podcast. So if you don't like a song, you just skip to the next chapter. 158 00:15:06,070 --> 00:15:06,970 Speaker 2: Easy peasy. 159 00:15:07,510 --> 00:15:12,490 Speaker 2: And you can easily get the song name because the chapter and often depending on your podcast player. 160 00:15:13,045 --> 00:15:13,705 Speaker 2: The podcast 161 00:15:14,085 --> 00:15:16,745 Speaker 2: artwork, the album art will change 162 00:15:17,365 --> 00:15:22,870 Speaker 2: to the album art of the music that's playing, and then we'll change back to the podcast after the music is over. 163 00:15:23,510 --> 00:15:32,650 Speaker 1: This is so slick. It feels like, why were we doing three months ago? Like, this is it's embarrassing. We haven't got to this point yet. You know, this is amazing. 164 00:15:26,070 --> 00:15:32,650 Speaker 1: why were we doing three months ago? Like, this is it's embarrassing. We haven't got to this point yet. You know, this is amazing. 165 00:15:33,575 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's always been really awkward getting music into podcasts. You'll often find like a lot of podcasts have self created music. Or, like, we forever go had I got a license with Ronald Jenkins. And so, you know, you negotiate those things trade some some amount of value or something for that, whereas this is you can really just sort of I as a podcaster before the show today would just had WAVlake up on my web browser. I was just listening through song. I'm like, oh, I like this one. I'll play this one in the show today. So I wanna test it right now just so because I think I have a fifty fifty shot getting this right. And I think there's only a handful of the new podcast apps that fully support this yet. I think the fountain beta does, but I don't know about the current release. So you may cut if your podcasting two dot o app doesn't fully support this, you might revisit this in a few weeks. But The track should have its own chapter. So if the song isn't your vibe either, it should be really easy to skip past, but should also be really easy to get the name and identify it. If you do like the track, While the track is playing, ninety five percent of your boost will go to the band, which includes the artists and some of the other people involved in the production of the song, And then that value split should switch back to us after the song. So here's looking for you by Jeremy Olivia. I'm There you have it. Looking for you. A boost enabled song will have links to that in the show notes or if you wanna find one that suits your vibe. Wavlake dot com, there's a whole bunch over there, including a top forty chart, which'll help you find probably some of the more popular songs. Now, Chris, I'm curious about what the tooling was like for you. You said it was super early days and you 166 00:15:40,270 --> 00:15:44,610 Speaker 2: Or, like, we forever go had I got a license with Ronald Jenkins. 167 00:15:45,630 --> 00:15:47,730 Speaker 2: And so, you know, you negotiate those things 168 00:15:48,225 --> 00:15:50,705 Speaker 2: trade some some amount of value or something for that, 169 00:15:51,505 --> 00:16:14,575 Speaker 2: whereas this is you can really just sort of I as a podcaster before the show today would just had WAVlake up on my web browser. I was just listening through song. I'm like, oh, I like this one. I'll play this one in the show today. So I wanna test it right now just so because I think I have a fifty fifty shot getting this right. And I think there's only a handful of the new podcast apps that fully support this yet. I think the fountain beta does, but I don't know about the current release. 170 00:16:14,970 --> 00:16:20,590 Speaker 2: So you may cut if your podcasting two dot o app doesn't fully support this, you might revisit this in a few weeks. 171 00:16:21,050 --> 00:16:21,550 Speaker 2: But 172 00:16:22,045 --> 00:16:31,105 Speaker 2: The track should have its own chapter. So if the song isn't your vibe either, it should be really easy to skip past, but should also be really easy to get the name and identify it. If you do like the track, 173 00:16:31,630 --> 00:16:46,095 Speaker 2: While the track is playing, ninety five percent of your boost will go to the band, which includes the artists and some of the other people involved in the production of the song, And then that value split should switch back to us after the song. So here's looking for you by Jeremy Olivia. 174 00:17:30,055 --> 00:17:30,555 Speaker 2: I'm 175 00:20:28,990 --> 00:20:32,780 Speaker 2: There you have it. Looking for you. A boost enabled 176 00:20:33,375 --> 00:20:38,035 Speaker 2: song will have links to that in the show notes or if you wanna find one that suits your vibe. 177 00:20:38,415 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: Wavlake dot com, there's a whole bunch over there, including a top forty chart, which'll help you find probably some of the more popular songs. Now, Chris, I'm curious about what the tooling was like for you. You said it was super early days and you 178 00:20:50,465 --> 00:20:52,885 Speaker 1: hesitated there saying, you think it'll work. 179 00:20:53,265 --> 00:22:57,544 Speaker 2: Tell me how that went and where you think it's going and how far along we are. Well, so Steven B in the podcasting two dot o community has created a tool called the split kit dot com. And this is tooling that helps you create the value block you need for a podcast for a live stream for a all kinds of different productions, actually. And it'll help sort of visually assemble your default block, which is your podcast, and it will also put together, the songs that you wanna contribute to, but it is a very, very complicated process. And everybody, Kyron, over at the Mirmortals podcast, and the value for value podcast, has created a YouTube tutorial that walks everyone through the step by step process. And it is on their mere mortals, YouTube channel, but I'll just put a link to the video directly in the show notes. Because Karen kinda sell shows you each with time codes, how to do each step of it. And so that was one of the videos I used to figure out how to do the split kit. Because it's not super intuitive. So his guide helps make it a little more clear. And then any podcaster right now that can get access to their RSS feed directly could put it in there. That's the tricky part. And for artists, the platforms like WAVlake and LN Beats, and others, they're they on the back end are doing all of the wiring for the RSS feed for the lightning stuff. So they can just upload their tracks to the platform. And it's made it really accessible for the artists. And then they go sign up with Albie, Connect it, and they're done. Oh, that's nice. It's really easy for them. Yeah. That's great. Mhmm. Yeah. And so artists, some artists have taken songs that they've had, you know, in their back catalog for twenty fifteen years that are great songs, super well recorded. But just haven't had any platform to be published on, and so there's some real gems on there. It's been it's been just what I've been listening to sitting at my desk. Know, it feels like it's sort of about time for the music industry in that sense. Like, we've seen it slowly dying since, you know, I don't know, the last decade. 180 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,075 Speaker 2: And this is tooling that helps you 181 00:21:07,375 --> 00:21:07,875 Speaker 2: create 182 00:21:08,655 --> 00:21:10,355 Speaker 2: the value block you need 183 00:21:10,735 --> 00:21:13,635 Speaker 2: for a podcast for a live stream for a 184 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:16,010 Speaker 2: all kinds of different productions, actually. 185 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:18,970 Speaker 2: And it'll help sort of visually assemble 186 00:21:19,910 --> 00:21:23,905 Speaker 2: your default block, which is your podcast, and it will also put together, 187 00:21:24,685 --> 00:21:27,745 Speaker 2: the songs that you wanna contribute to, but it is 188 00:21:28,205 --> 00:21:30,075 Speaker 2: a very, very complicated process. 189 00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: And everybody, Kyron, over at the Mirmortals podcast, 190 00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:42,255 Speaker 2: and the value for value podcast, has created a YouTube tutorial that walks everyone through the step by step process. 191 00:21:42,794 --> 00:21:58,844 Speaker 2: And it is on their mere mortals, YouTube channel, but I'll just put a link to the video directly in the show notes. Because Karen kinda sell shows you each with time codes, how to do each step of it. And so that was one of the videos I used to figure out how to do the split kit. Because it's not super intuitive. So his guide 192 00:21:59,144 --> 00:22:02,124 Speaker 2: helps make it a little more clear. And then any podcaster 193 00:22:03,144 --> 00:22:07,549 Speaker 2: right now that can get access to their RSS feed directly could put it in there. 194 00:22:08,409 --> 00:22:10,269 Speaker 2: That's the tricky part. And for artists, 195 00:22:11,209 --> 00:22:12,589 Speaker 2: the platforms like WAVlake 196 00:22:13,129 --> 00:22:15,184 Speaker 2: and LN Beats, and others, 197 00:22:15,644 --> 00:22:23,504 Speaker 2: they're they on the back end are doing all of the wiring for the RSS feed for the lightning stuff. So they can just upload their tracks to the platform. 198 00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:41,014 Speaker 2: And it's made it really accessible for the artists. And then they go sign up with Albie, Connect it, and they're done. Oh, that's nice. It's really easy for them. Yeah. That's great. Mhmm. Yeah. And so artists, some artists have taken songs that they've had, you know, in their back catalog for twenty fifteen years that are great songs, super well recorded. 199 00:22:42,029 --> 00:22:57,544 Speaker 2: But just haven't had any platform to be published on, and so there's some real gems on there. It's been it's been just what I've been listening to sitting at my desk. Know, it feels like it's sort of about time for the music industry in that sense. Like, we've seen it slowly dying since, you know, I don't know, the last decade. 200 00:22:58,004 --> 00:23:23,309 Speaker 1: But this feels like an entirely new economy for them, like, and and perfectly suited because so many artists, at least the ones I know, creating amazing music with the technology that we have now that you can do, you know, your own home studio and all that. So you can be fairly independent. And still produce extremely good quality stuff. And then this is just another way of supporting that, which I think is there's some huge potential here, Chris. 201 00:23:05,259 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: at least the ones I know, 202 00:23:07,154 --> 00:23:20,489 Speaker 1: creating amazing music with the technology that we have now that you can do, you know, your own home studio and all that. So you can be fairly independent. And still produce extremely good quality stuff. And then this is just another way of supporting that, which I think is 203 00:23:21,369 --> 00:23:23,309 Speaker 1: there's some huge potential here, Chris. 204 00:23:24,004 --> 00:27:51,059 Speaker 2: Yeah. It it feels like independent music too has reached a new quality threshold. You know, like, when I when I think creative Commons music, I kind of think of, like, a step down stuff, like, the music that's in, like, the YouTube music library that every YouTuber uses. That's really kind of You know, standard stuff, that's not what's happening over here. This is true artistic expression on these songs, and some of these songs are really resonating with people. And so it's there's something different there I suppose when people are voting with SaaS. Perhaps it surfaces the really good stuff. Is this gonna be your new way of discovering music? I know you've been searching for a little bit. Well, you know how much I like to play music in the live streams and stuff, and I've always wanted to be able to feature stuff that is safe for streaming. And just just seems like a natural way, but to really make it sing, you'd need the lit tag, you'd need the you would need our live streams in the podcasting Tududu app so that way people could boost the songs and whatnot. But, you know, we'll figure it out. We'll get there. We have a little bit of feedback we want to seek from the audience. And remember, we are trying to get to our next bounty. So this could be a great way to kind of come in and give us some feedback and help brainstorm for a future Jupiter broadcasting show. We didn't rename office hours. To Jupiter signal. Even though we were hinting pretty hard, that might become And it's a great name. You might be wondering why. It is. It is. That, right there, was the realization. We were saving it for a show that I think is a better fit for the name. And I wanna bounce it off the audience today, and I'd like to get your feedback. And then if we get a good response, we'll develop this further. But I'm putting it out there in the universe now, and I'm claiming ownership. So what if the Jupiter signal was a show that featured some of the most important signal in the various Jupiter broadcasting shows that sometimes get lost. A short show that features the new segments across the JB lineup. So give you an example. One feed gives you access to all the news that's covered, say, encoder. So it encoder radio. Couple episodes ago. We discussed the zoom terms of service change where they could use your face and voice data to train their AI models. And we covered that story. And for about two weeks, our community has discussed it because several people weren't listening to Cody Radio. They missed that story. Or there's been a recent crackdown by Oracle in hospitals running Java and it's expanding. And the tactic are absolutely dirty. They do a little switch of roo on you, and we covered that in Kota Radio. It's actually a pretty important story for any IT shop that runs Java. Self hosted's been covering the development of open source self hosted transcription and voice to text and text to voice services. And there's been some major updates there where there was a lot of news around Red Hat, including some more recent news around Red Hat regarding some staffing rearrangements. Some of those we cover in the live streams. We could even cut some of those live stream only things and slice them into this feed. So that way there's one feed where you get The news across the various shows perhaps with maybe an introduction by me, some sort of wrap up. And I think this is a system we could probably pretty easily achieve because as we implement transcripts and as we have chapters, we can pretty easily identify where that content took place. And we can go find that pretty quickly. And over time, I think we could do that in a automated process. Then I would sit down, record the introduction, record the outro, whatever, put it all together. We get it out there in one feed, and it's each bits that you might have missed from a show. I I don't know if this is something that would be useful to everyone out there, but I I have observed that some folks only have time for, like, one show. Maybe they listen to a couple of shows, but they missed that third show or something like that. And so they've missed what's going on. And then later on, this is what happens quite often as people link me the story. Right? Hey, Chris, did you see this? Yeah. And I'm always like, well, yeah. Yeah. I saw that two weeks ago, and I talked about it in this episode. But what I what the signal is that I take from that is That's a topic and a story they're interested in. They just didn't know we already discussed it. And if they had known, they would have heard about it from us a week before they went and found it on their own. And there might be some value there. I don't know. And then maybe you'd listen to that. I could go listen to that code of radio. And then maybe, you know, another code of radio segment where they had a really good take on that maybe I'll just go listen to the whole show. Maybe? 205 00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: You know, like, when I when I think creative Commons music, I kind of think of, like, 206 00:23:34,459 --> 00:23:49,004 Speaker 2: a step down stuff, like, the music that's in, like, the YouTube music library that every YouTuber uses. That's really kind of You know, standard stuff, that's not what's happening over here. This is true artistic expression on these songs, and some of these songs are really resonating with people. 207 00:23:49,779 --> 00:23:50,659 Speaker 2: And so it's 208 00:23:51,299 --> 00:23:54,759 Speaker 2: there's something different there I suppose when people are voting with SaaS. Perhaps it surfaces 209 00:23:55,379 --> 00:24:06,014 Speaker 2: the really good stuff. Is this gonna be your new way of discovering music? I know you've been searching for a little bit. Well, you know how much I like to play music in the live streams and stuff, and I've always wanted to be able to feature 210 00:24:06,779 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: stuff that is safe for streaming. 211 00:24:09,179 --> 00:24:20,414 Speaker 2: And just just seems like a natural way, but to really make it sing, you'd need the lit tag, you'd need the you would need our live streams in the podcasting Tududu app so that way people could boost the songs and whatnot. 212 00:24:21,194 --> 00:24:22,894 Speaker 2: But, you know, we'll figure it out. 213 00:24:23,289 --> 00:24:38,364 Speaker 2: We'll get there. We have a little bit of feedback we want to seek from the audience. And remember, we are trying to get to our next bounty. So this could be a great way to kind of come in and give us some feedback and help brainstorm for a future Jupiter broadcasting show. We didn't rename office hours. 214 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:43,979 Speaker 2: To Jupiter signal. Even though we were hinting pretty hard, that might become And it's a great name. You might be wondering why. It is. 215 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,019 Speaker 2: It is. 216 00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:47,179 Speaker 2: That, right there, 217 00:24:48,024 --> 00:24:51,084 Speaker 2: was the realization. We were saving it for a show 218 00:24:51,704 --> 00:24:54,044 Speaker 2: that I think is a better fit for the name. 219 00:24:54,424 --> 00:24:57,564 Speaker 2: And I wanna bounce it off the audience today, and I'd like to get your feedback. 220 00:24:58,479 --> 00:25:04,739 Speaker 2: And then if we get a good response, we'll develop this further. But I'm putting it out there in the universe now, and I'm claiming ownership. 221 00:25:05,974 --> 00:25:06,474 Speaker 2: So 222 00:25:06,854 --> 00:25:08,314 Speaker 2: what if the Jupiter signal 223 00:25:09,254 --> 00:25:10,154 Speaker 2: was a show 224 00:25:10,614 --> 00:25:15,594 Speaker 2: that featured some of the most important signal in the various Jupiter broadcasting shows 225 00:25:16,139 --> 00:25:17,999 Speaker 2: that sometimes get lost. 226 00:25:18,459 --> 00:25:25,384 Speaker 2: A short show that features the new segments across the JB lineup. So give you an example. One feed 227 00:25:26,084 --> 00:25:30,104 Speaker 2: gives you access to all the news that's covered, say, encoder. So it encoder radio. 228 00:25:30,699 --> 00:25:33,759 Speaker 2: Couple episodes ago. We discussed the zoom 229 00:25:34,139 --> 00:25:36,799 Speaker 2: terms of service change where they could use your face 230 00:25:37,179 --> 00:25:39,279 Speaker 2: and voice data to train their AI models. 231 00:25:39,894 --> 00:25:46,829 Speaker 2: And we covered that story. And for about two weeks, our community has discussed it because several people weren't listening to Cody Radio. They missed that story. 232 00:25:47,389 --> 00:25:49,649 Speaker 2: Or there's been a recent crackdown by Oracle 233 00:25:50,429 --> 00:25:52,769 Speaker 2: in hospitals running Java and it's expanding. 234 00:25:53,149 --> 00:25:54,784 Speaker 2: And the tactic are absolutely 235 00:25:55,084 --> 00:26:02,144 Speaker 2: dirty. They do a little switch of roo on you, and we covered that in Kota Radio. It's actually a pretty important story for any IT shop that runs Java. 236 00:26:02,499 --> 00:26:04,599 Speaker 2: Self hosted's been covering the development 237 00:26:05,219 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: of open source self hosted transcription 238 00:26:08,339 --> 00:26:18,364 Speaker 2: and voice to text and text to voice services. And there's been some major updates there where there was a lot of news around Red Hat, including some more recent news around Red Hat regarding some staffing rearrangements. 239 00:26:18,999 --> 00:26:22,219 Speaker 2: Some of those we cover in the live streams. We could even cut some of those 240 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,419 Speaker 2: live stream only things and slice them into this feed. 241 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:31,174 Speaker 2: So that way there's one feed where you get The news across the various shows perhaps with maybe an introduction by me, 242 00:26:31,634 --> 00:26:32,934 Speaker 2: some sort of wrap up. 243 00:26:34,194 --> 00:26:44,039 Speaker 2: And I think this is a system we could probably pretty easily achieve because as we implement transcripts and as we have chapters, we can pretty easily identify where that content took place. 244 00:26:45,414 --> 00:26:50,794 Speaker 2: And we can go find that pretty quickly. And over time, I think we could do that in a automated process. 245 00:26:51,574 --> 00:27:19,699 Speaker 2: Then I would sit down, record the introduction, record the outro, whatever, put it all together. We get it out there in one feed, and it's each bits that you might have missed from a show. I I don't know if this is something that would be useful to everyone out there, but I I have observed that some folks only have time for, like, one show. Maybe they listen to a couple of shows, but they missed that third show or something like that. And so they've missed what's going on. And then later on, this is what happens quite often as people link me the story. Right? Hey, Chris, did you see this? Yeah. 246 00:27:20,564 --> 00:27:37,849 Speaker 2: And I'm always like, well, yeah. Yeah. I saw that two weeks ago, and I talked about it in this episode. But what I what the signal is that I take from that is That's a topic and a story they're interested in. They just didn't know we already discussed it. And if they had known, they would have heard about it from us a week before they went and found it on their own. 247 00:27:38,854 --> 00:27:43,914 Speaker 2: And there might be some value there. I don't know. And then maybe you'd listen to that. I could go listen to that code of radio. 248 00:27:44,214 --> 00:27:49,619 Speaker 2: And then maybe, you know, another code of radio segment where they had a really good take on that maybe I'll just go listen to the whole show. 249 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:51,059 Speaker 2: Maybe? 250 00:27:51,919 --> 00:28:47,594 Speaker 1: So I'd love feedback on this idea. What do you think Brent just hearing this pitch? Yeah. Your pitch is even better than what you have in the show doc. I love it. First, I think it feels to me like I don't know, a fortnightly or however often we feel like doing it, but like a fortnightly greatest hits across the entire network of news stories and our take on it, which is Could be like a Saturday summary or something like that, like, a wrap up at the end of the week Yeah. I mean, that feels like a great way if you had a busy week or something just to dive into the most important stuff. I know it touches a little bit on what an x action news was doing, given the summer holiday there, and the fact that we're already talking about this stuff in some of the other shows. It seems like a a real win The other thing I appreciate is if you like all the shows, then you get everybody all in the same place. Like, it's kind of a really nice, like, hanging out with the with the crew. Show as well in that sense. 251 00:27:59,304 --> 00:28:01,644 Speaker 1: First, I think it feels to me like 252 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:23,039 Speaker 1: I don't know, a fortnightly or however often we feel like doing it, but like a fortnightly greatest hits across the entire network of news stories and our take on it, which is Could be like a Saturday summary or something like that, like, a wrap up at the end of the week Yeah. I mean, that feels like a great way if you had a busy week or something just to dive into the most important stuff. I know it 253 00:28:23,659 --> 00:28:27,604 Speaker 1: touches a little bit on what an x action news was doing, 254 00:28:28,064 --> 00:28:30,084 Speaker 1: given the summer holiday there, 255 00:28:31,024 --> 00:28:37,449 Speaker 1: and the fact that we're already talking about this stuff in some of the other shows. It seems like a a real win The other thing I appreciate is 256 00:28:38,069 --> 00:28:47,594 Speaker 1: if you like all the shows, then you get everybody all in the same place. Like, it's kind of a really nice, like, hanging out with the with the crew. Show as well in that sense. 257 00:28:47,974 --> 00:29:32,379 Speaker 2: Yeah. You get a little check-in here from everybody. I I guess I only wanna proceed with this if this is something that a positive response from the audience because it'd be something for them. I don't know how huge, again, this would be outside the JB audience. Maybe. Maybe it would bring in some. But if we could get it pretty well automated on the back end, because we have source flacks for everything, and we have chapter markers, we could probably figure out a system. Because we have similar tooling, that could cut it together for me in a way that's probably a pretty efficient workflow for me, and I just sit down, do the tops and tails, and then we publish because everything's already edited and sound treated. So it'd just be my stuff that needs to get cleaned up and matched. Are you how close? 258 00:28:50,854 --> 00:29:02,629 Speaker 2: I I guess I only wanna proceed with this if this is something that a positive response from the audience because it'd be something for them. I don't know how huge, again, this would be outside the JB audience. Maybe. Maybe it would bring in some. 259 00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:05,334 Speaker 2: But if we could get it pretty well automated 260 00:29:06,114 --> 00:29:11,894 Speaker 2: on the back end, because we have source flacks for everything, and we have chapter markers, we could probably figure out a system. 261 00:29:12,439 --> 00:29:14,299 Speaker 2: Because we have similar tooling, 262 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,059 Speaker 2: that could cut it together for me in a way that's probably 263 00:29:18,439 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 2: a pretty efficient workflow for me, and I just sit down, do the tops and tails, and then we publish because everything's already edited and sound treated. So it'd just be my stuff that needs to get cleaned up and matched. 264 00:29:30,199 --> 00:29:30,599 Speaker 2: Are you 265 00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:32,379 Speaker 2: how close? 266 00:29:34,199 --> 00:29:43,964 Speaker 1: How close do you think we are to pulling something like this off? Like, I know on this show, especially we come up with these giant dreams, and sometimes it takes us six months to get there. But, this feels surprisingly 267 00:29:38,999 --> 00:29:43,964 Speaker 1: these giant dreams, and sometimes it takes us six months to get there. But, this feels surprisingly 268 00:29:45,544 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 2: Doable. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think. West and I are thinking of doing a few dry runs just behind the scenes, getting an idea of what the manual workflow is like. And then kinda going from there and identifying what we need to do. And I think that's so that's that's probably step one. And I think we could do that while I wait for feedback from the audience. I'm only asking the office hours. Audience. I haven't talked about this anywhere else, but I feel like this is the crew that we should hear from because this would probably be one of the folks we're targeting is people that listen to JV show. Specific. Yeah. This crew is also fine with us screwing things up along the way. So thanks for that. Yeah. So let us know good or bad. We'll take it, and we'd appreciate it in a boost. And I do have an ask this week from the audience. We now have podcasting two to two transcripts for office hours two point o. If you look in your podcast player and it says office hours two point o, you now have the new feed If you're in a one point o player, it's backwards compatible. You just don't get the transcripts and some of the stuff. But if you're in a two point o player, you'll see it, or you can probably find it, you can find it on the office Office hours dot hair web page. I think it gets linked there as well. But I would like us to start experimenting with transcripts. With an eye towards, what if all the JB shows had transcripts? Could we integrate transcript search into notes dot jupyter broadcasting dot com search. That's a pretty handy search tool. Could we make it even better? Could we train a large language model? Where you could go to the large language that, you know, like, the colony model, the colony check. Colony GPT. And you go ask it. In one episode, did Brent talk about wildfires? Right? And it would just go through and give you the episode and maybe give you a paragraph or what? I don't know how it you know what I mean? Like, it seems like were on the cusp of self hosted large language models being useful enough where you could train it against your own dataset and imagine if we could train it against transcript for every JB show. That is wild. I hadn't even considered that, but 269 00:29:46,984 --> 00:29:48,524 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what I think. 270 00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:53,419 Speaker 2: West and I are thinking of doing a few dry runs just behind the scenes, 271 00:29:53,879 --> 00:29:56,539 Speaker 2: getting an idea of what the manual workflow is like. 272 00:29:57,094 --> 00:30:09,119 Speaker 2: And then kinda going from there and identifying what we need to do. And I think that's so that's that's probably step one. And I think we could do that while I wait for feedback from the audience. I'm only asking the office hours. Audience. I haven't talked about this anywhere else, 273 00:30:09,499 --> 00:30:16,764 Speaker 2: but I feel like this is the crew that we should hear from because this would probably be one of the folks we're targeting is people that listen to JV show. 274 00:30:17,724 --> 00:30:30,949 Speaker 2: Specific. Yeah. This crew is also fine with us screwing things up along the way. So thanks for that. Yeah. So let us know good or bad. We'll take it, and we'd appreciate it in a boost. And I do have an ask this week from the audience. 275 00:30:31,569 --> 00:30:32,629 Speaker 2: We now have 276 00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:34,864 Speaker 2: podcasting two to two transcripts 277 00:30:35,164 --> 00:30:57,844 Speaker 2: for office hours two point o. If you look in your podcast player and it says office hours two point o, you now have the new feed If you're in a one point o player, it's backwards compatible. You just don't get the transcripts and some of the stuff. But if you're in a two point o player, you'll see it, or you can probably find it, you can find it on the office Office hours dot hair web page. I think it gets linked there as well. But I would like us to start experimenting with transcripts. 278 00:30:58,999 --> 00:31:03,499 Speaker 2: With an eye towards, what if all the JB shows had transcripts? 279 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:05,349 Speaker 2: Could we integrate transcript 280 00:31:05,724 --> 00:31:08,624 Speaker 2: search into notes dot jupyter broadcasting dot com search. 281 00:31:09,164 --> 00:31:11,984 Speaker 2: That's a pretty handy search tool. Could we make it even better? 282 00:31:12,819 --> 00:31:13,639 Speaker 2: Could we 283 00:31:14,259 --> 00:31:16,439 Speaker 2: train a large language model? 284 00:31:17,459 --> 00:31:23,234 Speaker 2: Where you could go to the large language that, you know, like, the colony model, the colony check. Colony GPT. 285 00:31:24,254 --> 00:31:28,034 Speaker 2: And you go ask it. In one episode, did Brent talk about wildfires? 286 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:49,199 Speaker 2: Right? And it would just go through and give you the episode and maybe give you a paragraph or what? I don't know how it you know what I mean? Like, it seems like were on the cusp of self hosted large language models being useful enough where you could train it against your own dataset and imagine if we could train it against transcript for every JB show. That 287 00:31:49,659 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 2: is wild. I hadn't even considered that, but 288 00:31:53,739 --> 00:32:20,494 Speaker 1: that is an amazing use case. I know you and I and many of us, and the audience included, I'll often get asked, like, oh, do you remember when we talked about x y z and the notes dot, you know, jupyter broadcasting dot com has been an attempt to sorta help the audience with that. And I think it's done an okay job, but to have transcripts of all the conversations to go in there and some intelligence behind it. That is blowing my mind right now, Chris. Yeah. Some context awareness. 289 00:32:12,474 --> 00:32:20,494 Speaker 1: to have transcripts of all the conversations to go in there and some intelligence behind it. That is blowing my mind right now, Chris. Yeah. Some context awareness. 290 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:59,569 Speaker 2: Yes. If and it's something that the audience could completely work on on their own because everything's public. The shows are public. The transcripts are public. Source files are public. So if you think if you think you'd like to do something like this, please consider it because I feel like the transcripts open up a world of possibilities. These are some of the ones that come to my mind, but there might be others that you think of, or that we discover just in experimenting with this stuff. Ideas or if you try it, please boost in and let us know so we can keep an eye on it or we can let people know. Maybe people can help join and help out. We coordinate because this this show has been very successful that in the past. So that could be that could be such a cool project. 291 00:32:22,159 --> 00:32:24,739 Speaker 2: If and it's something that the audience could completely 292 00:32:25,439 --> 00:32:31,194 Speaker 2: work on on their own because everything's public. The shows are public. The transcripts are public. Source files are public. 293 00:32:31,574 --> 00:32:45,419 Speaker 2: So if you think if you think you'd like to do something like this, please consider it because I feel like the transcripts open up a world of possibilities. These are some of the ones that come to my mind, but there might be others that you think of, or that we discover just in experimenting with this stuff. 294 00:32:46,174 --> 00:32:51,154 Speaker 2: Ideas or if you try it, please boost in and let us know so we can keep an eye on it or we can let people know. 295 00:32:51,534 --> 00:32:56,529 Speaker 2: Maybe people can help join and help out. We coordinate because this this show has been very successful that in the past. 296 00:32:57,149 --> 00:32:59,569 Speaker 2: So that could be that could be such a cool project. 297 00:32:59,949 --> 00:33:23,064 Speaker 1: Do you think maybe we should send folks to the website Matrix Room to gather, you know, if you wanna get interested and invested in this that, you know, we started working on transcript stuff. Oh, I don't know. Was that a year ago? Geez. That's embarrassing. But it's come a long way. So I feel like there's already a small crew there. Who are interested, I wonder if that's the place to send new folks who wanna get involved. 298 00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:23,064 Speaker 1: But it's come a long way. So I feel like there's already a small crew there. Who are interested, I wonder if that's the place to send new folks who wanna get involved. 299 00:33:23,924 --> 00:34:05,119 Speaker 2: Good idea. Yeah. So we have the website Matrix chatroom. We'll try to remember to drop a link to that, but you can always find those. The general chatroom stuff is at jupyter broadcasting dot com slash matrix. And then we have what's called a space. And in that space, you'll find all the JV rooms, and there's a plethora of them. But, the website one's one of them that, Brent and I check. And that'd be a great spot to talk about this. And then also, you know, give us updates via a boost so that way we can communicate it to the rest of the community and things like that. And help us get to our next bounty because we are after all. Podcast bounty hunters. Right? And with that, let's get to some booths. 300 00:33:27,179 --> 00:33:34,639 Speaker 2: We'll try to remember to drop a link to that, but you can always find those. The general chatroom stuff is at jupyter broadcasting dot com slash matrix. 301 00:33:35,204 --> 00:33:38,664 Speaker 2: And then we have what's called a space. And in that space, 302 00:33:39,124 --> 00:33:42,424 Speaker 2: you'll find all the JV rooms, and there's a plethora of them. 303 00:33:42,819 --> 00:33:59,304 Speaker 2: But, the website one's one of them that, Brent and I check. And that'd be a great spot to talk about this. And then also, you know, give us updates via a boost so that way we can communicate it to the rest of the community and things like that. And help us get to our next bounty because we are after all. 304 00:34:00,059 --> 00:34:01,439 Speaker 2: Podcast bounty hunters. 305 00:34:01,739 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 2: Right? 306 00:34:02,779 --> 00:34:05,119 Speaker 2: And with that, let's get to some booths. 307 00:34:06,779 --> 00:34:09,119 Speaker 1: And now, it is time for 308 00:34:09,864 --> 00:36:02,789 Speaker 2: Krafniks came in with a row of king ducks, two hundred and twenty two thousand two hundred and twenty two sacks. Things that looking up for old nut duck. At this rate of episode funding, you'll never get a day off. I'd also like to ask again if there's any progress on accepting lightning payments, remember ship. It's the only reason I'm not a member. Keep up the great work. I hope Brent's house survived. It did. He's sitting in it right now. I'm currently sitting in it. It is still here. So all good there. Thank you. We really didn't know. No. You know? And I and then I left halfway through, like, when anyone's gonna burn down potentially. So, yeah, don't do that. Lightning payments for membership would be fantastic, you know, especially for like an annual subscription or something to that effect Memberful is the background provider for our membership system. And that's not really under our control payment options are. And we've kind of looked at the membership program as the Fiat option route for people that wanna use traditional banking because that's sort of all pipe with that with Stripe and whatnot on the back end. I don't know potentially I suppose the way this would happen is Stripe would start accepting lightning payments, which is not outside the realm of possibility at all. And then Memberful would have to probably implement that API, then we would be able to expose it. And this is the problem with platforms. And Why I would rather have a self hosted membership program if I were gonna switch to lightning? Because anytime you need to move or adapt, which is the theme of podcasting right now. For anybody that's doing this long term, it's your tip tone and dancing on your feet while playing with scissors. You need flexibility. And the problem with things like Patreon and memberful is they limit your flexibility and your ability to pivot. And being able to move and adapt fast is key to survival on the internet long term. So it's sort of a frustrating thing, Craftnick. But I do kind of take solace in the fact that I think long term, it'll get sorted out. 309 00:34:13,784 --> 00:34:30,984 Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty two thousand two hundred and twenty two sacks. Things that looking up for old nut duck. At this rate of episode funding, you'll never get a day off. I'd also like to ask again if there's any progress on accepting lightning payments, remember ship. It's the only reason I'm not a member. Keep up the great work. I hope Brent's house survived. 310 00:34:31,524 --> 00:34:48,834 Speaker 2: It did. He's sitting in it right now. I'm currently sitting in it. It is still here. So all good there. Thank you. We really didn't know. No. You know? And I and then I left halfway through, like, when anyone's gonna burn down potentially. So, yeah, don't do that. Lightning payments for membership would be fantastic, you know, especially for like an annual subscription 311 00:34:49,694 --> 00:34:51,314 Speaker 2: or something to that effect 312 00:34:51,749 --> 00:34:52,249 Speaker 2: Memberful 313 00:34:52,549 --> 00:34:56,809 Speaker 2: is the background provider for our membership system. And that's not really under our 314 00:34:58,469 --> 00:35:08,789 Speaker 2: control payment options are. And we've kind of looked at the membership program as the Fiat option route for people that wanna use traditional banking because that's sort of all pipe with that with Stripe and whatnot on the back end. 315 00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:24,914 Speaker 2: I don't know potentially I suppose the way this would happen is Stripe would start accepting lightning payments, which is not outside the realm of possibility at all. And then Memberful would have to probably implement that API, then we would be able to expose it. And this is the problem with platforms. And 316 00:35:25,869 --> 00:35:32,609 Speaker 2: Why I would rather have a self hosted membership program if I were gonna switch to lightning? Because anytime you need to move or adapt, 317 00:35:33,184 --> 00:35:41,604 Speaker 2: which is the theme of podcasting right now. For anybody that's doing this long term, it's your tip tone and dancing on your feet while playing with scissors. 318 00:35:42,129 --> 00:35:44,869 Speaker 2: You need flexibility. And the problem with things like Patreon 319 00:35:45,409 --> 00:35:46,229 Speaker 2: and memberful 320 00:35:47,169 --> 00:35:54,944 Speaker 2: is they limit your flexibility and your ability to pivot. And being able to move and adapt fast is key to survival on the internet long term. 321 00:35:55,884 --> 00:35:57,904 Speaker 2: So it's sort of a frustrating thing, Craftnick. 322 00:35:58,209 --> 00:36:02,789 Speaker 2: But I do kind of take solace in the fact that I think long term, it'll get sorted out. 323 00:36:03,169 --> 00:36:27,764 Speaker 1: I mean, in a way oh, yeah. No. That doesn't work. Ideas are hard. I was going to say you can just, like, self serve and, you know, send us in whatever show you want, like a member sizable boost. But then you don't get the feeds and stuff that we if that's the hardest part, isn't it? Yeah. The the the sending of the value is the easy part. I I've gotten this all wrong. Don't listen to me. The part that they offer 324 00:36:04,769 --> 00:36:06,294 Speaker 1: oh, yeah. No. That doesn't work. 325 00:36:07,094 --> 00:36:14,874 Speaker 1: Ideas are hard. I was going to say you can just, like, self serve and, you know, send us in whatever show you want, like a member 326 00:36:16,309 --> 00:36:27,764 Speaker 1: sizable boost. But then you don't get the feeds and stuff that we if that's the hardest part, isn't it? Yeah. The the the sending of the value is the easy part. I I've gotten this all wrong. Don't listen to me. The part that they offer 327 00:36:28,064 --> 00:38:09,855 Speaker 2: that we really wouldn't wanna build with the Fiat system is a membership authenticated feed that is authorized by a backing of like a credit card or debit card or something. And if that transaction is canceled or this subscription is canceled, their platform manages the feed access automatically. Whereas if we were to roll that ourselves and process credit cards, we would have to manage user accounts. We would have to manage balances. We would have to manage if the if they're current or not. And then we would have to manage the feed generation and the access to the feed and what goes in that feed, and that's what their platform provides. It's a lot. Right? And I don't really want customer information. I don't wanna be doing my own credit card stuff or writing my own stripe stuff. I don't wanna be doing that stuff. With lightning, and and Bitcoin because there's no counterparty risk and because it's final settlement, it it o it opens up a lot more options. Because it means a payment is finalized immediately when you send it to a business. And what some of these parties do, like memorable is they're taking that counterparty risk And they're assuming the transaction's clearing, but in reality, that transaction doesn't actually clear your bank account for a couple of days. Right? So it's all kinda just turtles all the way down until that clears. Whereas with a Bitcoin or a lightning transaction, anything that's sat based, once it's finalized on the blockchain or once it's gone through the lightning network, that transaction's final. And so as a business, I know those funds are safe and secure. So then it's safer to open up access to something. And it it doesn't really matter if your credit card can be charged or not because Payment either goes through or payment either doesn't. And so it's a one or a zero, and it's a lot more simple. And I think that will enable these types of systems once we have enough user base. 328 00:36:31,979 --> 00:36:32,639 Speaker 2: a membership 329 00:36:32,939 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 2: authenticated 330 00:36:34,859 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 2: feed 331 00:36:35,739 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: that is 332 00:36:37,659 --> 00:36:38,159 Speaker 2: authorized 333 00:36:38,459 --> 00:36:48,294 Speaker 2: by a backing of like a credit card or debit card or something. And if that transaction is canceled or this subscription is canceled, their platform manages the feed access automatically. 334 00:36:48,929 --> 00:37:00,734 Speaker 2: Whereas if we were to roll that ourselves and process credit cards, we would have to manage user accounts. We would have to manage balances. We would have to manage if the if they're current or not. And then we would have to manage the feed generation 335 00:37:01,514 --> 00:37:06,334 Speaker 2: and the access to the feed and what goes in that feed, and that's what their platform provides. 336 00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:16,019 Speaker 2: It's a lot. Right? And I don't really want customer information. I don't wanna be doing my own credit card stuff or writing my own stripe stuff. I don't wanna be doing that stuff. With lightning, 337 00:37:16,545 --> 00:37:20,964 Speaker 2: and and Bitcoin because there's no counterparty risk and because it's final settlement, 338 00:37:21,265 --> 00:37:27,230 Speaker 2: it it o it opens up a lot more options. Because it means a payment is finalized immediately when you send it to a business. 339 00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:37,905 Speaker 2: And what some of these parties do, like memorable is they're taking that counterparty risk And they're assuming the transaction's clearing, but in reality, that transaction doesn't actually clear your bank account for a couple of days. 340 00:37:38,444 --> 00:37:49,330 Speaker 2: Right? So it's all kinda just turtles all the way down until that clears. Whereas with a Bitcoin or a lightning transaction, anything that's sat based, once it's finalized on the blockchain or once it's gone through the lightning network, that transaction's final. 341 00:37:49,675 --> 00:37:58,815 Speaker 2: And so as a business, I know those funds are safe and secure. So then it's safer to open up access to something. And it it doesn't really matter if your credit card can be charged or not because 342 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:05,940 Speaker 2: Payment either goes through or payment either doesn't. And so it's a one or a zero, and it's a lot more simple. And I think that will enable 343 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,620 Speaker 2: these types of systems 344 00:38:08,075 --> 00:38:09,855 Speaker 2: once we have enough user base. 345 00:38:10,235 --> 00:38:18,130 Speaker 1: That's my thing. Do you ever see the possibility in the meantime, let's say? Of having a boost only membership 346 00:38:13,835 --> 00:38:18,130 Speaker 1: in the meantime, let's say? Of having a boost only membership 347 00:38:19,070 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: that sort of runs alongside the current member full one. Man, you know, I've seen some people playing around with lightning enabled files. So you, you know, you use three thousand stats and you get a download. Oh, interesting. Something like that. I don't know because I'm always gonna want a system that is available for people that don't wanna bother with the SaaS. Because that's, you know, there's two separate customers there. Now the business probably also would like to have both because it's just a nice, you know, deferral of income across two different sources instead of just being dependent on one. So there's pros and cons to all of it really, but it would be nice to have one system that I could manage itself host that just accepted all of it and then worked with trusted third parties for the card transactions. Perhaps, maybe the BTC pay server gets there one day, because you could do almost all of it with BTC pay server except for the credit card transactions as far as I know. BT fifty two comes in with a hundred and thirty one and seventy two sets using pod first, big fan of the network he writes and what you guys are doing. I've been skeptical of the cryptocurrency I'm always down to try something new and I can't wait for episode thirty four. Hope everything's great with Brent up in Afghanistan. You know, 348 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,820 Speaker 2: I don't know because I'm always gonna want a system that is available for people that don't wanna bother with the SaaS. 349 00:38:38,164 --> 00:38:41,545 Speaker 2: Because that's, you know, there's two separate customers there. Now 350 00:38:43,045 --> 00:38:44,664 Speaker 2: the business probably 351 00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: also would like to have both because it's just a nice, 352 00:38:48,980 --> 00:39:02,385 Speaker 2: you know, deferral of income across two different sources instead of just being dependent on one. So there's pros and cons to all of it really, but it would be nice to have one system that I could manage itself host that just accepted all of it and then worked with trusted third parties for the card transactions. 353 00:39:03,630 --> 00:39:11,250 Speaker 2: Perhaps, maybe the BTC pay server gets there one day, because you could do almost all of it with BTC pay server except for the credit card transactions as far as I know. 354 00:39:11,615 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: BT fifty two comes in with a hundred and thirty one and seventy two sets using pod first, big fan of the network he writes and what you guys are doing. I've been skeptical of the cryptocurrency I'm always down to try something new and I can't wait for episode thirty four. Hope everything's great with Brent up in 355 00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: Afghanistan. 356 00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: You know, 357 00:39:28,485 --> 00:39:47,565 Speaker 1: a couple times a year, I hear that, and it never gets old. So thank you. It's great. It's great. Yeah. Thank you also for try out, the south purchase even though you're a little skeptical of it. I would be too. Yeah. I think that's actually the perfect place to be. Isn't it? Try something, but be skeptical. That way, you can come at it with a critical eye. 358 00:39:43,464 --> 00:39:47,565 Speaker 1: Try something, but be skeptical. That way, you can come at it with a critical eye. 359 00:39:47,944 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. And this is a good time to experiment right now. Because the price is gonna be low. It is low as we record. And I mean, it's not out of the realm of historical cycle possibility for Bitcoin flirt with fifteen or fourteen thousand dollars until next year. It's possible it doesn't depending on just market dynamics because every market is different every year. But Historically, the price of Bitcoin, the year before the Avenue, which is coming up in early twenty twenty four, and the year, of course, before the presidential election, Historically, Bitcoin spends first half of the year going up, and then it spends the letter half of the year going down. And it's not a direct line. It's it goes down and then it bumps up for a little bit and stays there then it goes down, but it's a ladder series. It it's like a step. So it it goes down over time. So to recap before the election before the happening the year before, historically, aft literally every single time so far. Bitcoin spends the first half of the year going up, which we saw. And it it made new highs. It regained like eighty percent. And then it spends the rest of that year going down. And then usually some point in mid twenty in the in the in the which will next year, probably mid year to start going up again. This is fantastic for us. As just people that are experimenting with this as a value exchange and are building these systems and trying to onboard new users, cheaper price is actually better because it it's a lower cost to get in and experiment and all of that. And people can send a lot more sets 360 00:39:49,145 --> 00:39:52,444 Speaker 2: this is a good time to experiment right now. 361 00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: Because the price is gonna be low. It is low as we record. And 362 00:39:57,820 --> 00:40:06,025 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not out of the realm of historical cycle possibility for Bitcoin flirt with fifteen or fourteen thousand dollars until next year. 363 00:40:06,405 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: It's possible it doesn't depending on just market dynamics because every market is different every year. But Historically, 364 00:40:12,860 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: the price of Bitcoin, 365 00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:21,555 Speaker 2: the year before the Avenue, which is coming up in early twenty twenty four, and the year, of course, before the presidential election, Historically, 366 00:40:22,575 --> 00:40:29,315 Speaker 2: Bitcoin spends first half of the year going up, and then it spends the letter half of the year going down. And it's not a direct line. 367 00:40:29,860 --> 00:40:44,405 Speaker 2: It's it goes down and then it bumps up for a little bit and stays there then it goes down, but it's a ladder series. It it's like a step. So it it goes down over time. So to recap before the election before the happening the year before, historically, aft literally every single time so far. 368 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,060 Speaker 2: Bitcoin spends the first half of the year going up, which we saw. 369 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,380 Speaker 2: And it it made new highs. It regained like eighty percent. And then 370 00:40:53,525 --> 00:40:55,545 Speaker 2: it spends the rest of that year going down. 371 00:40:55,925 --> 00:41:08,730 Speaker 2: And then usually some point in mid twenty in the in the in the which will next year, probably mid year to start going up again. This is fantastic for us. As just people that are experimenting with this as a value exchange and are building these systems 372 00:41:09,075 --> 00:41:16,535 Speaker 2: and trying to onboard new users, cheaper price is actually better because it it's a lower cost to get in and experiment 373 00:41:16,835 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 2: and all of that. And people can send a lot more sets 374 00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: for a cheaper price. The rows of ducks are cheaper. 375 00:41:24,260 --> 00:42:36,034 Speaker 2: Right. Exactly. And then, you know, price starts going up, that's really what always draws people in. It's counterintuitive and people can't help it. It's just human nature. But mark my words. Things are gonna change when Bitcoin starts getting to fifty thousand and sixty thousand again and the price starts going up, which it probably will. Maybe it's Maybe it's not for another year, but it eventually will. And all of a sudden attitudes are gonna start changing. And people are gonna start aching in like morons. Instead of playing around now, when the on chain fees are cheap, when the activity is low, when the risk is lower, when the price is cheap, This is a perfect time to build these systems and experiment, but it's just not human nature. So I think you did the right thing, VT, and, please keep supporting because we wanna get to episode thirty five. Frosier comes in with a satchel of Richard, a big one. A hundred eleven thousand one hundred and one Sats. Using Podverse, he says, I'm not skeptical about the new model at all. Openness about the SaaS is required and SaaS received as good. It's a good strategy because it gives a signal on how many SaaS descent. Mhmm. Otherwise, it just feels like kind of a random amount. That's actually a really good point because we it's been hard for us to 376 00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:33,655 Speaker 2: And then, you know, price starts going up, that's really what always draws people in. It's counterintuitive and people can't help it. It's just human nature. 377 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,180 Speaker 2: But mark my words. 378 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:46,475 Speaker 2: Things are gonna change when Bitcoin starts getting to fifty thousand and sixty thousand again and the price starts going up, which it probably will. Maybe it's Maybe it's not for another year, but it eventually will. 379 00:41:47,575 --> 00:41:57,980 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden attitudes are gonna start changing. And people are gonna start aching in like morons. Instead of playing around now, when the on chain fees are cheap, when the activity is low, when the risk is lower, 380 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,785 Speaker 2: when the price is cheap, This is a perfect time to build these systems and experiment, but it's just not human nature. 381 00:42:04,405 --> 00:42:06,905 Speaker 2: So I think you did the right thing, VT, and, 382 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:17,035 Speaker 2: please keep supporting because we wanna get to episode thirty five. Frosier comes in with a satchel of Richard, a big one. A hundred eleven thousand one hundred and one Sats. 383 00:42:17,655 --> 00:42:21,595 Speaker 2: Using Podverse, he says, I'm not skeptical about the new model at all. 384 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:36,034 Speaker 2: Openness about the SaaS is required and SaaS received as good. It's a good strategy because it gives a signal on how many SaaS descent. Mhmm. Otherwise, it just feels like kind of a random amount. That's actually a really good point because we it's been hard for us to 385 00:42:36,419 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: express 386 00:42:37,219 --> 00:43:19,934 Speaker 2: the kind of value we're looking for. I think probably up to this point, you would say. Right? Chris, we took a while to think about that number. We never had a podcast where everybody involved was like, yeah, I'll take the entire payment in Boost. I can I could do that? Right? And it took Drew being on board and you being on board and me being on board and we're It's a smaller team, so it's probably a little more capable possible to do that as an experiment. And we'll see if it works again. Right. We've only had one. I honestly don't know. It could be an anomaly. Yeah. It could be. And it it took us a while to do this one because it's a lot of pressure. Actually, it turns out it's more pressure than I thought it would be to try to do a good episode because we wanna do right by the booth and we wanna reach another milestone. Again, we wanna get another Yeah. You and I, 387 00:42:59,069 --> 00:42:59,569 Speaker 2: And 388 00:43:00,109 --> 00:43:01,650 Speaker 2: we'll see if it works again. 389 00:43:02,295 --> 00:43:05,275 Speaker 2: Right. We've only had one. I honestly don't know. It could be an anomaly. 390 00:43:06,055 --> 00:43:14,609 Speaker 2: Yeah. It could be. And it it took us a while to do this one because it's a lot of pressure. Actually, it turns out it's more pressure than I thought it would be to try to do a good episode because 391 00:43:14,910 --> 00:43:19,934 Speaker 2: we wanna do right by the booth and we wanna reach another milestone. Again, we wanna get another Yeah. You and I, 392 00:43:20,554 --> 00:43:28,199 Speaker 1: we felt the exact same way without even, like, coordinating about it. I was like, oh, man, we gotta we gotta do a real banger here. And I don't know if we've got it in the cart. 393 00:43:28,919 --> 00:45:27,669 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Although if we keep going, I've definitely got ideas for old time JB host, guest spots, and checking in with members community that people might remember and stuff like that. So I've got a lot of ideas, but we'll see. We'll see. A lot of plumbing happened too during that time. A lot of things we've never tried before. It's been really awesome. Colafara. Probably not getting that right comes in with a hundred thousand stats from the podcast index. And they'd really like Our follow-up related to an issue I mentioned with Tail Scale. I had an outage where I couldn't connect to the studio systems for a little while. You'd like to know what was going on there? Because there'd be a hard pause on his tail scale rollout if die if downtime occurred. And there was no explanation. So I don't know if I ever got to the bottom k. I think I did discover what might have been going on at least for one of the systems. And it might have been a compounding issue where several problems are happening. But on my Bitcoin node, If the umbral services start before tail scale or perhaps if tail scale is running, and then I restart the umbral services, but I don't restart tail scale. The ports that docker has opened up, tail scale seems to be unaware of. And so what I have to do is if for some reason I have to restart the node services, I then need to restart tail scale. Most of my systems, I don't just have like ports hanging open. Like, I've got like Nginx And it's, like, I just connected that, and it's managing all of the it's proxying all the connections. But on the node, this is how EMBra works, is it installs a Docker application, and it opens up a port, like port three thousand or whatever. And I suspect that those were just complete tail scale is completely unaware about those. Maybe if I had restarted tail scale, it could have fixed it. I was wasn't my first move because if you're remoted into a system, when you are remote, you don't wanna really restart the VPN. So I I never ultimately was able to get to the bottom of it, but it has never happened before. It has never happened again. 394 00:43:41,794 --> 00:43:42,534 Speaker 2: We'll see. 395 00:43:42,834 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 2: A lot of plumbing happened too during that time. A lot of things we've never tried before. It's been really awesome. 396 00:43:48,339 --> 00:44:01,694 Speaker 2: Colafara. Probably not getting that right comes in with a hundred thousand stats from the podcast index. And they'd really like Our follow-up related to an issue I mentioned with Tail Scale. I had an outage where I couldn't connect to the studio systems for a little while. You'd like to know what was going on there? 397 00:44:02,209 --> 00:44:07,029 Speaker 2: Because there'd be a hard pause on his tail scale rollout if die if downtime occurred. 398 00:44:07,569 --> 00:44:08,789 Speaker 2: And there was no explanation. 399 00:44:10,294 --> 00:44:14,394 Speaker 2: So I don't know if I ever got to the bottom k. I think 400 00:44:15,094 --> 00:44:21,889 Speaker 2: I did discover what might have been going on at least for one of the systems. And it might have been a compounding issue where several problems are happening. 401 00:44:22,349 --> 00:44:23,409 Speaker 2: But on my 402 00:44:23,789 --> 00:44:24,769 Speaker 2: Bitcoin node, 403 00:44:25,424 --> 00:44:28,724 Speaker 2: If the umbral services start before tail scale 404 00:44:29,104 --> 00:44:34,004 Speaker 2: or perhaps if tail scale is running, and then I restart the umbral services, but I don't restart tail scale. 405 00:44:35,809 --> 00:44:39,989 Speaker 2: The ports that docker has opened up, tail scale seems to be unaware of. 406 00:44:40,369 --> 00:44:44,149 Speaker 2: And so what I have to do is if for some reason I have to restart the node services, 407 00:44:45,134 --> 00:44:46,994 Speaker 2: I then need to restart tail scale. 408 00:44:47,614 --> 00:44:48,834 Speaker 2: Most of my systems, 409 00:44:49,374 --> 00:44:57,409 Speaker 2: I don't just have like ports hanging open. Like, I've got like Nginx And it's, like, I just connected that, and it's managing all of the it's proxying all the connections. 410 00:44:57,709 --> 00:45:05,014 Speaker 2: But on the node, this is how EMBra works, is it installs a Docker application, and it opens up a port, like port three thousand or whatever. 411 00:45:05,794 --> 00:45:07,574 Speaker 2: And I suspect that those 412 00:45:07,889 --> 00:45:14,469 Speaker 2: were just complete tail scale is completely unaware about those. Maybe if I had restarted tail scale, it could have fixed it. I was 413 00:45:14,984 --> 00:45:21,404 Speaker 2: wasn't my first move because if you're remoted into a system, when you are remote, you don't wanna really restart the VPN. 414 00:45:21,704 --> 00:45:27,669 Speaker 2: So I I never ultimately was able to get to the bottom of it, but it has never happened before. It has never happened again. 415 00:45:28,289 --> 00:45:44,849 Speaker 1: So it could it must have been something here at the land. It sounds like, actually, a surprisingly tricky issue to solve, but the whole ports thing is how fascinating to hear you talk about. I hope tail scale? I don't know. Who's responsibility is it? It's a tricky one. 416 00:45:40,509 --> 00:45:44,849 Speaker 1: hope tail scale? I don't know. Who's responsibility is it? It's a tricky one. 417 00:45:45,389 --> 00:47:56,429 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I can't I don't I don't use that setup commonly, but I don't Really ever seem to recall running into that problem ever before. But how do I It's kind of a unique beast with its own management scripts and the way it starts services, And I don't know. Perhaps if they were going, in fact, I would wouldn't be surprised at all. If Umbroll was using service management through system d, Tail Scale may be very well aware of it. But because they're bypassing that perhaps, that's the gotcha. Half pint comes in with sixty six ninety nine sets and he says it's the same number both ways. And he's right. If you flip it, same amount, that's really cool. Having fun. I don't know why, but I really like that. Yeah. That's great. So he's looking forward to the next one too. Marji came in with fifty five thousand to five hundred and fifty five Sats using Castamatic, which is a real zinger of an app. Boundy Sats, if you Google three three three three three. Apparently, it's the angel number. A sign of love and a reminder to maintain a positive attitude and optimistic vibrations. So enjoy the good vibes along with them sets. Hope the extra downtime from land allows you to relax a bit, and a good luck for the coming chapter. Know what I have spent a lot of my I wasn't sure what I'd spend a lot of my land down downtime doing. I thought it would be sponsor negotiations, but it's just been so dead. There's been none none to speak of, and I've spent it farming. And I've got, like, one of the best tans I've had in years, probably since I went to Texas, three three or four years ago. And, been much more active, physically active, learning a ton. And it's been nice because I didn't realize how much I needed something where I could put effort in and within a couple of days see results. God, that's nice. That's been a nice switcheroo where so many things in the podcasting world are Sort of existential and also going to take multiple years to play out. And it's like, so I'm pushing in certain areas But I'm not even gonna get the results I want for another couple of years. Whereas a garden is like a few days turn around sometimes. And that's been really nice. Well, Chris, that sounds actually like the best case scenario. I know you were maybe hoping for some sponsorships, but actually 418 00:45:50,074 --> 00:45:53,774 Speaker 2: Really ever seem to recall running into that problem ever before. 419 00:45:54,154 --> 00:45:58,574 Speaker 2: But how do I It's kind of a unique beast with its own management scripts and the way it starts services, 420 00:45:59,009 --> 00:46:08,994 Speaker 2: And I don't know. Perhaps if they were going, in fact, I would wouldn't be surprised at all. If Umbroll was using service management through system d, Tail Scale may be very well aware of it. 421 00:46:09,874 --> 00:46:11,894 Speaker 2: But because they're bypassing that perhaps, 422 00:46:12,674 --> 00:46:13,734 Speaker 2: that's the gotcha. 423 00:46:14,034 --> 00:46:24,809 Speaker 2: Half pint comes in with sixty six ninety nine sets and he says it's the same number both ways. And he's right. If you flip it, same amount, that's really cool. Having fun. I don't know why, but I really like that. Yeah. That's great. 424 00:46:25,189 --> 00:46:31,414 Speaker 2: So he's looking forward to the next one too. Marji came in with fifty five thousand to five hundred and fifty five Sats using Castamatic, 425 00:46:32,034 --> 00:46:37,969 Speaker 2: which is a real zinger of an app. Boundy Sats, if you Google three three three three three. Apparently, 426 00:46:38,669 --> 00:46:44,459 Speaker 2: it's the angel number. A sign of love and a reminder to maintain a positive attitude and optimistic vibrations. 427 00:46:45,244 --> 00:46:47,584 Speaker 2: So enjoy the good vibes along with them sets. 428 00:46:47,964 --> 00:46:50,864 Speaker 2: Hope the extra downtime from land allows you to relax a bit, 429 00:46:51,804 --> 00:46:58,969 Speaker 2: and a good luck for the coming chapter. Know what I have spent a lot of my I wasn't sure what I'd spend a lot of my land down downtime doing. I thought it would be 430 00:47:00,069 --> 00:47:02,729 Speaker 2: sponsor negotiations, but it's just been so dead. 431 00:47:03,294 --> 00:47:12,994 Speaker 2: There's been none none to speak of, and I've spent it farming. And I've got, like, one of the best tans I've had in years, probably since I went to Texas, three three or four years ago. 432 00:47:13,409 --> 00:47:13,809 Speaker 2: And, 433 00:47:15,889 --> 00:47:17,029 Speaker 2: been much more active, 434 00:47:17,489 --> 00:47:18,309 Speaker 2: physically active, learning a ton. And it's been nice 435 00:47:21,809 --> 00:47:22,309 Speaker 2: because 436 00:47:22,724 --> 00:47:27,464 Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much I needed something where I could put effort in and within a couple of days see results. 437 00:47:28,244 --> 00:47:32,344 Speaker 2: God, that's nice. That's been a nice switcheroo where so many things in the podcasting world are 438 00:47:33,799 --> 00:47:34,859 Speaker 2: Sort of existential 439 00:47:35,399 --> 00:47:35,899 Speaker 2: and 440 00:47:36,439 --> 00:47:38,779 Speaker 2: also going to take multiple years to play out. And it's like, so I'm pushing in certain 441 00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:56,429 Speaker 2: areas But I'm not even gonna get the results I want for another couple of years. Whereas a garden is like a few days turn around sometimes. And that's been really nice. Well, Chris, that sounds actually like the best case scenario. I know you were maybe hoping for some sponsorships, but actually 442 00:47:56,729 --> 00:47:59,469 Speaker 1: Chris's health and well-being and inspiration, 443 00:47:59,929 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 2: I think This is the best holiday ever. Oh, jeez. Yeah. And now if I could just stop kicking myself about it constantly and feeling guilty that there's an impending doom. But I fall gracefully into the trusting arms of the audience. Marci also sent me some great information on Nick Bitcoin, which we are digging into. Sir, Alex Gate, the podcasting Tuno consultant came in with thirty four thousand two hundred and twenty three sets across three booths using podverse. And he also feels the same way I do about flying. It's not a fear of death. It's not like a fear of crowds. It's the feeling of being trapped and being subject to a bunch of b s theater. It's like you think I'm stupid? You think I don't see what you're doing here? You're gonna make me do this even though we both know this is bull and then I'm trapped. I can't go anywhere. I'm trapped in security. I'm trapped behind security once I make it through security. I'm trapped in line once I'm in line, then I'm trapped in the walkway because those always take forever, then I'm trapped in the walkway of the plane because it takes for everybody to sit down because nobody can figure it out even though they all done it before. And then I'm trapped on the on the tarmac while while I'm waiting for the plane, then I'm trapped in the air. I can't go anywhere for sure then. And then it lands and it takes forever to get off, and I'm trapped while I'm waiting for everybody to get trapping limelight get up, then I have to go up the walkway again super slow. It's finally, once you're off the walkway, you get out the gate and you get into the general airport, and you know, you can just frickin make a beeline for it. But then of course you're with somebody who had to check bags, Brent. They had to check your bags. So you can't just get out of the airport. You're still trapped for a little bit longer, Brent. You gotta go get your luggage, and of course it takes them forever to get their luggage. So you put a tracker in your luggage so you can watch it and you're watching. But now the tracker's been the metal, so you don't know where your bag is. And so you're just waiting, Brent, and you're trapped. 444 00:48:03,434 --> 00:48:09,374 Speaker 2: jeez. Yeah. And now if I could just stop kicking myself about it constantly and feeling guilty that there's an impending doom. 445 00:48:09,929 --> 00:48:17,309 Speaker 2: But I fall gracefully into the trusting arms of the audience. Marci also sent me some great information on Nick Bitcoin, which we are digging into. 446 00:48:17,734 --> 00:48:25,515 Speaker 2: Sir, Alex Gate, the podcasting Tuno consultant came in with thirty four thousand two hundred and twenty three sets across three booths using podverse. 447 00:48:26,589 --> 00:48:30,130 Speaker 2: And he also feels the same way I do about flying. It's not a fear of death. 448 00:48:30,749 --> 00:48:33,170 Speaker 2: It's not like a fear of crowds. It's 449 00:48:34,045 --> 00:48:38,384 Speaker 2: the feeling of being trapped and being subject to a bunch of b s theater. 450 00:48:39,244 --> 00:48:45,229 Speaker 2: It's like you think I'm stupid? You think I don't see what you're doing here? You're gonna make me do this even though we both know this is bull 451 00:48:46,189 --> 00:49:12,954 Speaker 2: and then I'm trapped. I can't go anywhere. I'm trapped in security. I'm trapped behind security once I make it through security. I'm trapped in line once I'm in line, then I'm trapped in the walkway because those always take forever, then I'm trapped in the walkway of the plane because it takes for everybody to sit down because nobody can figure it out even though they all done it before. And then I'm trapped on the on the tarmac while while I'm waiting for the plane, then I'm trapped in the air. I can't go anywhere for sure then. And then it lands and it takes forever to get off, and I'm trapped while I'm waiting for everybody to get trapping limelight get up, then I have to go up the walkway again super slow. 452 00:49:13,654 --> 00:49:24,529 Speaker 2: It's finally, once you're off the walkway, you get out the gate and you get into the general airport, and you know, you can just frickin make a beeline for it. But then of course you're with somebody who had to check bags, Brent. They had to check your bags. 453 00:49:24,874 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 2: So you can't just get out of the airport. You're still trapped for a little bit longer, Brent. You gotta go get your luggage, and of course it takes them forever to get their luggage. So you put a tracker in your luggage so you can watch it and you're watching. But now the tracker's been the metal, so you don't know where your bag is. And so you're just waiting, Brent, and you're trapped. 454 00:49:38,499 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, I traveled with my mother recently. That was my exact experience. I was like, carry on everything, and she had, you know, enough bags for the both of us. The whole waiting for bags thing, once you transition to the no bags, no check bags, lifestyle is just painful. 455 00:49:48,094 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: The whole waiting for bags thing, once you transition to the no bags, no check bags, lifestyle is just painful. 456 00:49:56,619 --> 00:52:39,755 Speaker 2: And I don't think I'm gonna be able to wait at all for real Avedore because he got me, the wife, the kid, our clothes, podcasting gear. We're checking bags. Gosh. Goodbye. We're checking bags. Now he also had some follow-up on pod ping. I joked about, pod ping going over XMPP, knowing they're out skates, but, He says, you know, they've been looking at a means to have their own consensus based network with no blockchain required. Shocking, I know he writes, but I don't even like Hive, but it does happen to fit the job. Hive is a blockchain that has a really, really, really fast block time. And now I'm gonna get this wrong. So, Alex, please feel free to give a better explanation. But I believe one of the key advantages is it allows for embedding like JSON data. And so you can essentially create a message bus that the podcast clients can subscribe to. And they can see when a podcast using this pod ping network has updated and then they can go pull the feed and get the updates or dependent how they want to do it. And so instead of every single app, which is how the current system works with the old apps, pulling every XML file every few minutes. So, you know, for, Linux unplugged, that's tens and tens and tens and tens of thousands of podcast catchers every few minutes. Checking the XML file on an HTTP endpoint. But with pod ping and the hive system behind it, the way it works in podcasting two zero zero, is when you update your RSS feed, you send out what's called a pod ping. That essentially registers a message in the Hive network that your podcast feed has been updated. There's new information. It should be checked. And then the podcast clients get that information. Somehow, maybe from a back end, maybe directly. They go update the feed. It's pretty cool. And so they're working on a system that doesn't require blockchain at all. Perhaps perhaps Alex is just a database. Let us know. And he says the Noster topic also has been hitting a nerve. He and another developer were personally attacked by some Bitcoin Maxis because He told them that you could do pod ping over network, over lightning, I should say, and Alex completely disagrees. And that was a bad experience when they tried to cancel us. I realize a lot of developers, especially inexperienced ones like shiny new things, but software architecture has requirements, and I'll add a damn it in there. I I wonder what you think, Alex, if the let's put everything over lightning fad has maybe faded a little bit. I remember About a year ago, this time, everybody wanted to do everything over lightning. Look at this new we got this network. We can send stuff really cheap. We can make and because it does require a slight cost, it won't have spam gonna be fantastic, but it's just simply not the right technology for that. And I feel like we've walked that back, the community. I never thought it was a good idea, but I feel like a lot of people have walked that back, and now there's a more practical discussion about using the right tool for the right job. Maybe Alex feels differently though. 457 00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 2: Now he also had some follow-up on pod ping. I joked about, 458 00:50:09,619 --> 00:50:12,999 Speaker 2: pod ping going over XMPP, knowing they're out skates, but, 459 00:50:13,375 --> 00:50:19,555 Speaker 2: He says, you know, they've been looking at a means to have their own consensus based network with no blockchain 460 00:50:19,855 --> 00:50:20,355 Speaker 2: required. 461 00:50:21,140 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 2: Shocking, I know he writes, but I don't even like Hive, but it does happen to fit the job. Hive is a blockchain that has a really, really, really fast block time. 462 00:50:30,004 --> 00:50:38,104 Speaker 2: And now I'm gonna get this wrong. So, Alex, please feel free to give a better explanation. But I believe one of the key advantages is it allows for embedding like JSON 463 00:50:38,404 --> 00:50:38,904 Speaker 2: data. 464 00:50:39,279 --> 00:50:54,334 Speaker 2: And so you can essentially create a message bus that the podcast clients can subscribe to. And they can see when a podcast using this pod ping network has updated and then they can go pull the feed and get the updates or dependent how they want to do it. And so instead of every single app, 465 00:50:54,794 --> 00:50:57,134 Speaker 2: which is how the current system works with the old apps, 466 00:50:57,630 --> 00:51:01,150 Speaker 2: pulling every XML file every few minutes. So, you know, for, 467 00:51:02,029 --> 00:51:07,249 Speaker 2: Linux unplugged, that's tens and tens and tens and tens of thousands of podcast catchers every few minutes. 468 00:51:07,694 --> 00:51:10,194 Speaker 2: Checking the XML file on an HTTP endpoint. 469 00:51:10,895 --> 00:51:26,505 Speaker 2: But with pod ping and the hive system behind it, the way it works in podcasting two zero zero, is when you update your RSS feed, you send out what's called a pod ping. That essentially registers a message in the Hive network that your podcast feed has been updated. There's new information. It should be checked. 470 00:51:26,965 --> 00:51:35,900 Speaker 2: And then the podcast clients get that information. Somehow, maybe from a back end, maybe directly. They go update the feed. It's pretty cool. And so they're working on a system that doesn't require blockchain at all. Perhaps 471 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,380 Speaker 2: perhaps Alex is just a database. 472 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,535 Speaker 2: Let us know. And he says the Noster topic also has been hitting a nerve. 473 00:51:43,075 --> 00:51:46,694 Speaker 2: He and another developer were personally attacked by some Bitcoin Maxis because 474 00:51:47,070 --> 00:51:52,130 Speaker 2: He told them that you could do pod ping over network, over lightning, I should say, and Alex completely disagrees. 475 00:51:52,430 --> 00:52:00,224 Speaker 2: And that was a bad experience when they tried to cancel us. I realize a lot of developers, especially inexperienced ones like shiny new things, but software architecture 476 00:52:00,605 --> 00:52:01,425 Speaker 2: has requirements, 477 00:52:01,885 --> 00:52:04,079 Speaker 2: and I'll add a damn it in there. 478 00:52:04,959 --> 00:52:07,940 Speaker 2: I I wonder what you think, Alex, if the let's put everything over lightning fad has maybe faded a little bit. I remember 479 00:52:13,845 --> 00:52:15,625 Speaker 2: About a year ago, this time, 480 00:52:16,005 --> 00:52:24,410 Speaker 2: everybody wanted to do everything over lightning. Look at this new we got this network. We can send stuff really cheap. We can make and because it does require a slight cost, it won't have spam gonna be fantastic, 481 00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:33,370 Speaker 2: but it's just simply not the right technology for that. And I feel like we've walked that back, the community. I never thought it was a good idea, but I feel like a lot of people have walked that back, and now there's 482 00:52:33,815 --> 00:52:34,475 Speaker 2: a more 483 00:52:34,775 --> 00:52:37,515 Speaker 2: practical discussion about using the right tool for the right job. 484 00:52:38,055 --> 00:52:39,755 Speaker 2: Maybe Alex feels differently though. 485 00:52:40,135 --> 00:52:56,975 Speaker 1: Ginko salad boosted in with thirty thousand Sats over PUNverse. Coming in the hub with the boost. Hey, first boost here. Hey, o. Thanks for all the JB shows. I think your shows really got me into podcast listening in general. I'm all for the boost bounty episode model too, and it needs a catchy name. 486 00:52:52,635 --> 00:52:56,975 Speaker 1: I'm all for the boost bounty episode model too, and it needs a catchy name. 487 00:52:58,850 --> 00:53:08,070 Speaker 2: Yeah. It does it right. Like, the podcast bounty hunters. Something, you know, like, we need a good name. Shoot. This is an area I kind of stink at. 488 00:53:05,490 --> 00:53:08,070 Speaker 2: Shoot. This is an area I kind of stink at. 489 00:53:08,415 --> 00:53:15,555 Speaker 1: I used it up all my good names years ago. You know, I feel like we should have some voting open, but, we're not doing this episode live this week. So, 490 00:53:17,430 --> 00:55:58,430 Speaker 2: boosting some ideas. I I yeah. I I kinda like, podcast bounty hunters or something for some reason. But doesn't that doesn't really sound like it's a thing we're trying to do. It's a bounty. It's a pod bounty. It's I don't know the pod goal. I don't know what it is. Those are horrible, so hopefully not those. But, gink, thank you for the boost. We can send a big list of whatnot to name it. Yeah. Right? Like we just went through some of those, Brad. Right? I think those are We're good at those. Yeah. Listener, Jeff, comes in with thirty thousand Sats to send us some beers, some corns, some popcorn, and a bucket because he knows I got a lot of weeds. Anonomous also sent in twenty one thousand Sats to help get to our bounty. And they say they really like the IPFS podcasting model too. Didn't even know they existed. And they say it's also their second fully funded boost. Thank you, anonymous. Now go set your username so I can, thank you properly. And mister rustic Diversa is back with seven thousand Sats from the podcast index. I'm alive. This is the way a bounty boost. Let's get another episode and a sound bite for bounty boosts. Maybe the mando. And let's hope this thing takes off. I like it. And tell me what you think, Resta Casta. How does this work? For a bounty boost. This is the way. Yeah. Nice. Not bad. Right? Do you like me, Samantha? Nice to see you, Rasta. This is the best. Yeah. That that would be great. We need AI to generate that in the Mando voice. Hal was right came in with forty two hundred sets. Two boosts using pod verse. And he says, right on with Noster. I think Noster has good incentives and long for long term success. K y c free free Bitcoin is the way to go. K y c is the illicit activity. That's know your customer. Purple dog came in with fifteen thousand sets using Podverse. Not really relevant, but I have to type something. My wife got her PhD this week, and the certificate she got Is an n f t no way? There's a QR code on the back that links to a page saying this document is valid. But as far as I know, there it isn't related or pegged to her in any way. It was minted months before she completed her thesis. It's just the sheet of paper that's printed on that is validated. I don't get how it proves anything. Couldn't I just copy that QR code to another document? What's wrong with a PDF and maybe a PGP signature? 491 00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:23,940 Speaker 2: podcast bounty hunters or something for some reason. But 492 00:53:24,675 --> 00:53:27,815 Speaker 2: doesn't that doesn't really sound like it's a thing we're trying to do. It's a bounty. 493 00:53:28,195 --> 00:53:30,055 Speaker 2: It's a pod bounty. It's 494 00:53:31,795 --> 00:53:36,210 Speaker 2: I don't know the pod goal. I don't know what it is. Those are horrible, so hopefully not those. 495 00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:46,745 Speaker 2: But, gink, thank you for the boost. We can send a big list of whatnot to name it. Yeah. Right? Like we just went through some of those, Brad. Right? I think those are We're good at those. Yeah. Listener, Jeff, 496 00:53:49,080 --> 00:54:03,265 Speaker 2: comes in with thirty thousand Sats to send us some beers, some corns, some popcorn, and a bucket because he knows I got a lot of weeds. Anonomous also sent in twenty one thousand Sats to help get to our bounty. And they say they really like the IPFS podcasting model too. Didn't even know they existed. 497 00:54:04,285 --> 00:54:10,620 Speaker 2: And they say it's also their second fully funded boost. Thank you, anonymous. Now go set your username so I can, thank you properly. 498 00:54:15,535 --> 00:54:16,035 Speaker 2: And 499 00:54:22,815 --> 00:54:28,609 Speaker 2: mister rustic Diversa is back with seven thousand Sats from the podcast index. I'm alive. 500 00:54:29,470 --> 00:54:36,085 Speaker 2: This is the way a bounty boost. Let's get another episode and a sound bite for bounty boosts. Maybe the mando. 501 00:54:36,785 --> 00:54:45,770 Speaker 2: And let's hope this thing takes off. I like it. And tell me what you think, Resta Casta. How does this work? For a bounty boost. This is the way. 502 00:54:46,070 --> 00:54:46,570 Speaker 2: Yeah. 503 00:54:47,110 --> 00:54:47,610 Speaker 2: Nice. 504 00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:49,370 Speaker 2: Not bad. Right? 505 00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:53,415 Speaker 2: Do you like me, Samantha? Nice to see you, Rasta. This is the best. 506 00:54:54,115 --> 00:54:58,535 Speaker 2: Yeah. That that would be great. We need AI to generate that in the Mando voice. 507 00:54:59,315 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 2: Hal was right came in with forty two hundred sets. Two boosts using pod verse. 508 00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 2: And he says, right on with Noster. I think Noster has good incentives and long for long term success. 509 00:55:11,115 --> 00:55:16,895 Speaker 2: K y c free free Bitcoin is the way to go. K y c is the illicit activity. That's know your customer. 510 00:55:17,355 --> 00:55:18,975 Speaker 2: Purple dog came in with fifteen 511 00:55:19,710 --> 00:55:21,890 Speaker 2: thousand sets using Podverse. 512 00:55:22,269 --> 00:55:28,690 Speaker 2: Not really relevant, but I have to type something. My wife got her PhD this week, and the certificate she got 513 00:55:29,164 --> 00:55:30,864 Speaker 2: Is an n f t no way? 514 00:55:32,684 --> 00:55:37,824 Speaker 2: There's a QR code on the back that links to a page saying this document is valid. 515 00:55:38,769 --> 00:55:46,150 Speaker 2: But as far as I know, there it isn't related or pegged to her in any way. It was minted months before she completed her thesis. 516 00:55:47,134 --> 00:55:54,674 Speaker 2: It's just the sheet of paper that's printed on that is validated. I don't get how it proves anything. Couldn't I just copy that QR code to another document? 517 00:55:55,210 --> 00:55:58,430 Speaker 2: What's wrong with a PDF and maybe a PGP signature? 518 00:55:58,970 --> 00:56:08,625 Speaker 1: Does that mean there's gonna be an underground network of Like certificate paper nfts. Is this what we're talking about? You can sell your own 519 00:56:02,170 --> 00:56:02,670 Speaker 1: of 520 00:56:03,744 --> 00:56:04,565 Speaker 1: Like certificate 521 00:56:05,185 --> 00:56:08,625 Speaker 1: paper nfts. Is this what we're talking about? You can sell your own 522 00:56:09,345 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 2: yeah. Yeah. If you just need the QR code, that's crazy. And it doesn't prove anything. I mean, the idea let's say all this worked and the idea that your marriage license and your PhD and your, you know, your certificates could be on a a blockchain that an employer or anybody could get access to. Maybe that's useful. I don't I don't know. Maybe. Sounds like a privacy nightmare to me. Yeah. Exactly. It's that's that's my thinking. But the other problem with NFTs is that ultimately It's just sending you to an HTTP endpoint that's sitting on somebody's web server. And is that thing gonna be around for forty years, is that thing gonna be online and serving images and returning results for the length of that person's career? There's no way. No. So it seems like it's probably good for a few years at best. I mean, you know how these things get these systems get redone and websites get broken and people forget about it after a while. I just don't know, man. I don't know. Iraq comes in with four thousand four hundred and forty four stats. Love what y'all do. Love the insights that office hours offers. Here's to episode thirty four. Thank you, sir. You helped us get there. Oppy nineteen eighty four did two four thousand Sats. Coming in with Podverse just to give us some funding sets and Fair Day fedora came in with nine thousand four hundred and forty five sets. Giving Podvers a go. I was having trouble going to the podcast in index website. It's been a barrier to get boost to you guys. I would like to know more about that faraday. But I am super stoked that you hit the bounty this quick. From what I've heard, though, corn can be very tricky to grow. If you haven't already checked the epic garden and open EPic homestead on YouTube. I have been. Thank you for that suggestion. And he also writes that he's interested in IPFS podcasting. The audience gonna basically build their own CDN. It's so cool. You get that going, we should have an IPFS matrix group. Could always use another Matrix chatroom. 523 00:56:10,465 --> 00:56:12,724 Speaker 2: Yeah. If you just need the QR code, that's crazy. 524 00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,220 Speaker 2: And it doesn't prove anything. I mean, the idea 525 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,339 Speaker 2: let's say all this worked and the idea that your 526 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:21,700 Speaker 2: marriage license and your PhD and your, you know, 527 00:56:22,255 --> 00:56:24,354 Speaker 2: your certificates could be on a 528 00:56:24,734 --> 00:56:33,930 Speaker 2: a blockchain that an employer or anybody could get access to. Maybe that's useful. I don't I don't know. Maybe. Sounds like a privacy nightmare to me. Yeah. Exactly. It's that's that's my thinking. 529 00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:34,890 Speaker 2: But 530 00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:37,049 Speaker 2: the other problem with NFTs 531 00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:38,969 Speaker 2: is that ultimately 532 00:56:39,585 --> 00:56:44,644 Speaker 2: It's just sending you to an HTTP endpoint that's sitting on somebody's web server. 533 00:56:45,505 --> 00:56:54,789 Speaker 2: And is that thing gonna be around for forty years, is that thing gonna be online and serving images and returning results for the length of that person's career? There's no way. 534 00:56:55,634 --> 00:56:56,134 Speaker 2: No. 535 00:56:57,474 --> 00:57:00,694 Speaker 2: So it seems like it's probably good for a few years at best. 536 00:57:01,234 --> 00:57:09,789 Speaker 2: I mean, you know how these things get these systems get redone and websites get broken and people forget about it after a while. I just don't know, man. I don't know. 537 00:57:10,729 --> 00:57:24,730 Speaker 2: Iraq comes in with four thousand four hundred and forty four stats. Love what y'all do. Love the insights that office hours offers. Here's to episode thirty four. Thank you, sir. You helped us get there. Oppy nineteen eighty four did two four thousand Sats. Coming in with 538 00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:30,809 Speaker 2: Podverse just to give us some funding sets and Fair Day fedora came in with nine thousand four hundred and forty five sets. 539 00:57:31,204 --> 00:57:39,065 Speaker 2: Giving Podvers a go. I was having trouble going to the podcast in index website. It's been a barrier to get boost to you guys. I would like to know more about that faraday. 540 00:57:39,850 --> 00:57:42,350 Speaker 2: But I am super stoked that you hit the bounty this quick. 541 00:57:42,730 --> 00:57:50,135 Speaker 2: From what I've heard, though, corn can be very tricky to grow. If you haven't already checked the epic garden and open EPic homestead on YouTube. I have been. 542 00:57:50,435 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for that suggestion. And he also writes that he's interested in IPFS podcasting. The audience gonna basically build their own CDN. It's so cool. You get that going, we should have an IPFS matrix group. 543 00:58:02,260 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 2: Could always use another Matrix chatroom. 544 00:58:04,660 --> 00:58:07,755 Speaker 1: How many can you have in total? We'll find it. Right. Yeah. 545 00:58:08,855 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 2: I think the corn's turning out. I had some early corn where it was just barely turning yellow and the top wasn't quite one hundred percent done so they're like little kernels on the top and stuff, but the flavor was still pretty good, even though it wasn't fully done. So I'm I'm hopeful. Hadea's dad came over last night, and he left with armfuls of corn and cucumbers just like as much as you can possibly hold. It doesn't even make a dent in the inventory. It doesn't even make a dent. I mean, unbelievable amount of cucumbers and corn. Gonna be gonna be eating a lot of corn. Mary Myrtle's podcast comes in with some handsome four thousand four hundred and forty four stats across two booths using fountain. And, I think we covered one previously, so I I cut to this one. And, they're right. The righteous win of Bitcoin Congratulations on hitting the bounty, Chris, right here alongside with you at putting myself outside my comfort zone to try new styles. Implement more tags and plugging away at making value for value sustainable for myself. I'm also teaching others on the value for value podcast, which is live on Tuesdays. At midnight, which is UTC zero. Yeah. Check out the value for value podcast for more insights. It is he's got something special there for people that are trying to wrap their head around this model. We'll also, again, have a link to Kyron's tutorial on setting up the music time split stuff as well. Keep up the good work, sir. I love watching what you're doing. Smart growth comes in with five thousand Sats finally signed up for a Jupiter Party membership. Well, thanks smart growth. Appreciate both the boost and the membership. It's really making this possible. The golden dragon comes in with a cute little row of duck. There it is. Boos. Glad the bounty was met. Maybe in the future, the bounty met music could be the final battle theme from final fantasy. I did love this music when it came on on the Super Nintendo. Like I had achieved something, and we felt that way with the bounty. We The day we hit our milestone, we celebrated. Oh, yeah. It's a pretty good suggestion, Dragon. It's pretty good. You know, the first 546 00:58:23,675 --> 00:58:28,495 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful. Hadea's dad came over last night, and he left with 547 00:58:29,115 --> 00:58:29,615 Speaker 2: armfuls 548 00:58:29,995 --> 00:58:30,735 Speaker 2: of corn 549 00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:40,570 Speaker 2: and cucumbers just like as much as you can possibly hold. It doesn't even make a dent in the inventory. It doesn't even make a dent. I mean, unbelievable amount of cucumbers and corn. 550 00:58:40,875 --> 00:58:49,135 Speaker 2: Gonna be gonna be eating a lot of corn. Mary Myrtle's podcast comes in with some handsome four thousand four hundred and forty four stats across two booths using fountain. 551 00:58:49,590 --> 00:59:08,110 Speaker 2: And, I think we covered one previously, so I I cut to this one. And, they're right. The righteous win of Bitcoin Congratulations on hitting the bounty, Chris, right here alongside with you at putting myself outside my comfort zone to try new styles. Implement more tags and plugging away at making value for value sustainable 552 00:59:08,570 --> 00:59:09,310 Speaker 2: for myself. 553 00:59:09,690 --> 00:59:13,550 Speaker 2: I'm also teaching others on the value for value podcast, which is live on Tuesdays. 554 00:59:14,105 --> 00:59:16,845 Speaker 2: At midnight, which is UTC zero. 555 00:59:17,545 --> 00:59:20,205 Speaker 2: Yeah. Check out the value for value podcast for more insights. 556 00:59:20,825 --> 00:59:26,460 Speaker 2: It is he's got something special there for people that are trying to wrap their head around this model. We'll also, again, have a link 557 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:38,125 Speaker 2: to Kyron's tutorial on setting up the music time split stuff as well. Keep up the good work, sir. I love watching what you're doing. Smart growth comes in with five thousand Sats finally signed up for a Jupiter Party membership. 558 00:59:39,130 --> 00:59:44,110 Speaker 2: Well, thanks smart growth. Appreciate both the boost and the membership. It's really making this possible. 559 00:59:44,570 --> 00:59:47,825 Speaker 2: The golden dragon comes in with a cute little row of duck. 560 00:59:48,865 --> 00:59:50,565 Speaker 2: There it is. Boos. 561 00:59:50,865 --> 00:59:57,470 Speaker 2: Glad the bounty was met. Maybe in the future, the bounty met music could be the final battle theme from final fantasy. 562 01:00:05,455 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 2: I did love this music when it came on on the Super Nintendo. Like I had achieved something, and we felt that way with the bounty. We The day we hit our milestone, we celebrated. 563 01:00:14,380 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's a pretty good suggestion, Dragon. It's pretty good. You know, the first 564 01:00:19,225 --> 01:00:25,485 Speaker 1: five seconds of that tune I was happy with. And then it just kept going, and it just made me happier and happier. 565 01:00:26,940 --> 01:03:17,346 Speaker 2: Yeah, man. When you're a kid and you finally beat like the end boss or something like that, it's so rewarding. That's that tune. Has been stuck in my head for years even, like, when somebody, like, achieves something, sometimes I play that tune in my head sound board. Grounded grid comes in with five thousand five hundred satch and fountain. I'll throw the rest of my fountain sat at the JB sandbox looking forward to seeing these new features and hearing about the journey implementing them. Well, grounded. Let me know what you think. It should all be in place for this episode. I like the idea of a JB sandbox where we just, like, you know, build stuff, and then we're like, Let's redo it. Knock it down and try again. So the eighty six comes in with ten thousand Seth using fountain. Congratulations on the bounty being reached and here's some more SaaS for the next one. I set up an IPFS podcasting node within an hour of hearing pocket Office one. These SaaS? Oh, no. These SaaS have been earned through the Helium network and converted to Bitcoin than sent to fountain. Set up an Alby wallet today, and might just move to that. Keep up the great work. Thank you, Sully. Appreciate that quite a bit. And true grits comes in with five thousand stats, glad to see office hours slash the pocket office fee go live. Gonna go check out the new one that just dropped, but I thought I should check out this one first. Thanks, grits. And then, we had Prozac come in with just eight hundred sat I wanted to read it. This is our last boost of the show. He writes, are they right? Love the value for value model, but outside the US, it is hard. Because we have crappy countries. The whole adpocalypse and how I can actually chime in given the global economic parody sent me to subscribe to the self hosted s r e membership. It may not be a full party membership, but as non US dollar money holder, I appreciate the fact there are still ways for us to contribute to Jamie JB more than just going with ads. Keep the regular fee out ways going too. Some places are really hard to get BTC. You know, Prozac, I really appreciate that feedback. And another thing I would love to hear feedback from the audience is how folks outside the US get their sats. And maybe we could give a couple of good tips for folks struggling with that. It's probably gonna be location specific, but maybe there's something out there we can pass along that'd be helpful. So please boost that in if you know. Thank you everybody who boosted in. We have some great totals to get to. We are going with the radical transparency here, and we had twenty nine total boosters, which is incredible. Thirty seven boost total, because some people sent in multiple messages. Some didn't make it on air. Like, they just maybe they didn't have a note attached, but Everybody's boost has been received and read. And we got a total of one million one hundred and sixty thousand five hundred and fifty nine SaaS. This is the way. It's very close. We're just four hundred thousand SaaS shy from our next bounty. I think we can get there. I think we can. It'd be great to even tip a little bit over since the price is dipping a bit. It'd be great to tip a little bit over that one point five million bounty, and we're really close. 566 01:00:32,460 --> 01:00:40,445 Speaker 2: That's that tune. Has been stuck in my head for years even, like, when somebody, like, achieves something, sometimes I play that tune in my head sound board. 567 01:00:41,340 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 2: Grounded grid comes in with five thousand five hundred satch and fountain. 568 01:00:45,020 --> 01:01:00,530 Speaker 2: I'll throw the rest of my fountain sat at the JB sandbox looking forward to seeing these new features and hearing about the journey implementing them. Well, grounded. Let me know what you think. It should all be in place for this episode. I like the idea of a JB sandbox where we just, like, you know, build stuff, and then we're like, Let's redo it. 569 01:01:01,230 --> 01:01:37,750 Speaker 2: Knock it down and try again. So the eighty six comes in with ten thousand Seth using fountain. Congratulations on the bounty being reached and here's some more SaaS for the next one. I set up an IPFS podcasting node within an hour of hearing pocket Office one. These SaaS? Oh, no. These SaaS have been earned through the Helium network and converted to Bitcoin than sent to fountain. Set up an Alby wallet today, and might just move to that. Keep up the great work. Thank you, Sully. Appreciate that quite a bit. And true grits comes in with five thousand stats, glad to see office hours slash the pocket office fee go live. Gonna go check out the new one that just dropped, but I thought I should check out this one first. 570 01:01:38,290 --> 01:01:39,270 Speaker 2: Thanks, grits. 571 01:01:39,651 --> 01:01:45,175 Speaker 2: And then, we had Prozac come in with just eight hundred sat I wanted to read it. This is our last boost of the show. 572 01:01:45,715 --> 01:01:54,180 Speaker 2: He writes, are they right? Love the value for value model, but outside the US, it is hard. Because we have crappy countries. The whole adpocalypse 573 01:01:54,720 --> 01:02:10,165 Speaker 2: and how I can actually chime in given the global economic parody sent me to subscribe to the self hosted s r e membership. It may not be a full party membership, but as non US dollar money holder, I appreciate the fact there are still ways for us to contribute to Jamie JB more than just going with ads. 574 01:02:10,651 --> 01:02:14,510 Speaker 2: Keep the regular fee out ways going too. Some places are really hard to get BTC. 575 01:02:15,290 --> 01:02:23,906 Speaker 2: You know, Prozac, I really appreciate that feedback. And another thing I would love to hear feedback from the audience is how folks outside the US get their sats. 576 01:02:24,445 --> 01:02:34,191 Speaker 2: And maybe we could give a couple of good tips for folks struggling with that. It's probably gonna be location specific, but maybe there's something out there we can pass along that'd be helpful. So please boost that in if you know. 577 01:02:34,696 --> 01:02:41,995 Speaker 2: Thank you everybody who boosted in. We have some great totals to get to. We are going with the radical transparency here, and we had twenty 578 01:02:42,651 --> 01:02:44,991 Speaker 2: nine total boosters, which is incredible. 579 01:02:45,850 --> 01:02:54,386 Speaker 2: Thirty seven boost total, because some people sent in multiple messages. Some didn't make it on air. Like, they just maybe they didn't have a note attached, but Everybody's boost has been received and read. 580 01:02:54,686 --> 01:03:03,521 Speaker 2: And we got a total of one million one hundred and sixty thousand five hundred and fifty nine SaaS. This is the way. It's very close. 581 01:03:03,821 --> 01:03:07,601 Speaker 2: We're just four hundred thousand SaaS shy from our next bounty. 582 01:03:08,286 --> 01:03:17,346 Speaker 2: I think we can get there. I think we can. It'd be great to even tip a little bit over since the price is dipping a bit. It'd be great to tip a little bit over that one point five million bounty, and we're really close. 583 01:03:17,731 --> 01:03:39,851 Speaker 1: We're really close. You know, Chris, this really hits me. We mentioned that we were delaying a little bit in recording this episode because we really wanna make a great one, but they almost You know, you've lovely listeners. You almost, like, met the bounty without us even meeting our requirements for the first one. So huge. Thank you there. Really appreciate the the groundswell support. I I don't think I could even convey it because 584 01:03:20,691 --> 01:03:26,071 Speaker 1: We mentioned that we were delaying a little bit in recording this episode because we really wanna make a great one, but they almost 585 01:03:26,666 --> 01:03:39,851 Speaker 1: You know, you've lovely listeners. You almost, like, met the bounty without us even meeting our requirements for the first one. So huge. Thank you there. Really appreciate the the groundswell support. I I don't think I could even convey it because 586 01:03:40,951 --> 01:05:36,126 Speaker 2: it is really scary to think that you know, some of our the sponsors that have remained may be going away. You know, at the end of the year or something like that. And what would we do? I am so grateful we are experimenting with this right now before we are in that emergency situation, and we are figuring this out now. And we are making it feasible with Jupiter Broadcasting's smallest show. This show gets astronomically less downloads than all the other shows. That's incredible. And we're making it viable with the core support of our community. And that's literally what helps me sleep at night. You know, it's that it's that kind of thing. So thank you everybody who steps up helps us experiment with this model. It is the grand experiment, and we appreciate everyone's support. Can also support becoming by becoming a Jupiter party member over at jupiter dot party. Appreciate that support as well. Absolutely. We'll keep an eye on the stats as they trickle in and perhaps we'll have another office hours scheduled sooner than later this time. And I hope everyone got a chance tried out in a podcasting Tourodo app. It is pretty exciting to be rolling out some of those new features. It probably means a slight delay in release because I'm gonna have to manually post the episode to make sure all the stuff's done because I'm manually crafting the feed right now. But we'll eventually automate that too. Just hand crafted is what we like to do. It is a truly handcrafted product, right? From beginning to end with Drew's fantastic production, which has now been financed directly by the audience. That's amazing. And then on the other end, as it's once it's produced and finalized, I'll be doing the finishing touches to get all the podcasting Pluto features on there to get it distributed on IPFS and all that kind of stuff. A complete package is something we've never done before. It's really awesome and it's made possible by head support of the audience. So thank you everyone. And now you gotta get the heck out of here. I gotta get back to work. I gotta go pull weeds. I got corn. Almost hours are over. Door's closed. See you next time. 587 01:03:43,646 --> 01:03:46,066 Speaker 2: you know, some of our the sponsors that have remained 588 01:03:46,526 --> 01:03:47,746 Speaker 2: may be going away. 589 01:03:48,286 --> 01:03:51,346 Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the year or something like that. And what would we do? 590 01:03:51,691 --> 01:03:58,671 Speaker 2: I am so grateful we are experimenting with this right now before we are in that emergency situation, and we are figuring this out now. 591 01:03:59,056 --> 01:04:02,036 Speaker 2: And we are making it feasible with Jupiter Broadcasting's 592 01:04:02,736 --> 01:04:03,796 Speaker 2: smallest show. 593 01:04:04,256 --> 01:04:09,721 Speaker 2: This show gets astronomically less downloads than all the other shows. That's incredible. And we're making it viable 594 01:04:10,181 --> 01:04:11,961 Speaker 2: with the core support of our community. 595 01:04:12,581 --> 01:04:13,081 Speaker 2: And 596 01:04:13,381 --> 01:04:15,536 Speaker 2: that's literally what helps me sleep at night. 597 01:04:16,096 --> 01:04:30,661 Speaker 2: You know, it's that it's that kind of thing. So thank you everybody who steps up helps us experiment with this model. It is the grand experiment, and we appreciate everyone's support. Can also support becoming by becoming a Jupiter party member over at jupiter dot party. 598 01:04:31,041 --> 01:04:32,981 Speaker 2: Appreciate that support as well. Absolutely. 599 01:04:33,286 --> 01:05:00,766 Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on the stats as they trickle in and perhaps we'll have another office hours scheduled sooner than later this time. And I hope everyone got a chance tried out in a podcasting Tourodo app. It is pretty exciting to be rolling out some of those new features. It probably means a slight delay in release because I'm gonna have to manually post the episode to make sure all the stuff's done because I'm manually crafting the feed right now. But we'll eventually automate that too. Just hand crafted is what we like to do. It is a truly handcrafted 600 01:05:01,221 --> 01:05:08,121 Speaker 2: product, right? From beginning to end with Drew's fantastic production, which has now been financed directly by the audience. That's amazing. 601 01:05:08,576 --> 01:05:11,876 Speaker 2: And then on the other end, as it's once it's produced and finalized, 602 01:05:12,176 --> 01:05:18,356 Speaker 2: I'll be doing the finishing touches to get all the podcasting Pluto features on there to get it distributed on IPFS and all that kind of stuff. 603 01:05:18,941 --> 01:05:28,446 Speaker 2: A complete package is something we've never done before. It's really awesome and it's made possible by head support of the audience. So thank you everyone. And now you gotta get the heck out of here. I gotta get back to work. 604 01:05:28,746 --> 01:05:30,926 Speaker 2: I gotta go pull weeds. I got corn. 605 01:05:32,106 --> 01:05:33,406 Speaker 2: Almost hours are over. 606 01:05:33,706 --> 01:05:34,526 Speaker 2: Door's closed. 607 01:05:34,986 --> 01:05:36,126 Speaker 2: See you next time.