Speaker 0: It's office hours. With me, Chris. Hello, everyone. Welcome back into the office. Yes. The door is officially open again and look who's taking the best seat in the house. It's Brentley. Hey, Brent. Well, hello. Jesus, this place has really changed since the last time we did this.
Speaker 0: With me, Chris.
Speaker 0: Hello, everyone. Welcome back into the office. Yes. The door is officially open again and look who's taking the best seat in the house. It's Brentley. Hey, Brent. Well, hello. Jesus, this place has really changed since the last time we did this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I went for a new theme. You know, real modern looking.
Speaker 1: It's a bit too much mauve for me, though. Oh,
Speaker 2: I got, but I got a great deal on eBay. Just eventually, I think that cat piecemeal would put out, but probably makes you feel at home, I am married now. Hey, guess what? We're back. Office hours is now a full podcasting two point zero feed. It's official, it's real, and it's the first show on Jupiter Broadcasting to achieve this milestone. And it was made possible by our boosters, by our members, Really seriously. It absolutely was made possible by your support because we hit pause for a moment, and we re architected some of the back end, which we covered on pocket. One and pocket two. But I just want to take a second and say thank you because with that time, the show will now have cloud chapters Some of those chapters will also have special art. So check your podcast player from time to time. It's the first show to officially have transcripts with each release. And for the very first time, we're going to attempt in the show the time value splits, which will have more information and a little deets about that soon. But also, the show is being distributed over IPFS podcasting, which is amazing, and a special shout out to everybody out there who's contacted me and said, hey, I've set up a node, and I'm pinning office hours. We really appreciate that. Thank you everybody out there. You get a special bell. That's for you for helping support and distribute the office hours podcast. And please more consider joining because I have a lot more work to do, but Brent, you know, it's one of those things where we mentioned on the shows. We didn't even really make a direct call. Maybe maybe we suggested it. I don't know. But I've heard from several people that after listening to, I think, pocket one went out and spun up their own IPFS podcasting
Speaker 2: Hey, guess what? We're back. Office hours is now
Speaker 2: a full podcasting two point zero feed.
Speaker 2: It's official, it's real, and it's the first show on Jupiter Broadcasting to achieve this milestone.
Speaker 2: And it was made possible by our boosters, by our members,
Speaker 2: Really seriously. It absolutely was made possible by your support because we hit pause for a moment, and we re architected some of the back end, which we covered on pocket.
Speaker 2: One and pocket two. But I just want to take a second and say thank you because with that time,
Speaker 2: the show will now have cloud chapters Some of those chapters will also have special art. So check your podcast player from time to time.
Speaker 2: It's the first show to officially have transcripts with each release.
Speaker 2: And for the very first time, we're going to attempt in the show the time value splits, which will have more information and a little deets about that soon.
Speaker 2: But also,
Speaker 2: the show is being distributed over IPFS
Speaker 2: podcasting,
Speaker 2: which is amazing, and a special shout out to everybody out there who's contacted me and said, hey, I've set up a node, and I'm pinning
Speaker 2: office hours. We really appreciate that. Thank you everybody out there.
Speaker 2: You get a special bell.
Speaker 2: That's for you for helping support and distribute the office hours podcast. And please more consider joining because I have a lot more work to do, but Brent, you know, it's one of those things where we mentioned on the shows. We didn't even really make a direct call. Maybe maybe we suggested it. I don't know. But I've heard from several people that after listening to, I think, pocket one went out and spun up their own IPFS podcasting
Speaker 1: notes. You know, I say this often. You can hear me saying it quite often, but we've cut the best audience. Alright. Listen. Are just they're the sweetest.
Speaker 1: Alright. Listen. Are just they're the sweetest.
Speaker 2: And maybe they wanna make a little money. Because speaking of the podcasting two dot o apps, Podverse has put out a twelve hundred dollar bounty for completed Android auto support. For Podverse. They have a GitHub repo, I believe, Android Auto with, a note pinned regarding this bounty. This is a big one. Twelve hundred bucks. For helping out an open source project at Android auto support. Well, I would imagine if someone went for this, they could,
Speaker 2: Podverse has put out a twelve hundred dollar bounty
Speaker 2: for completed Android auto support.
Speaker 2: For Podverse.
Speaker 2: They have a GitHub repo, I believe, Android Auto with, a note pinned regarding this bounty.
Speaker 2: This is a big one. Twelve hundred bucks. For helping out an open source project at Android auto support. Well, I would imagine if someone went for this, they could,
Speaker 1: you know, eventually just get to be a bigger part of the project. So it might be kind of a neat opportunity as well to sink your teeth into something you know, and then maybe, I don't know, be part of a really cool team.
Speaker 2: So you're back, but for how long, right? Are you're you're going back to Berlin
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, I think? I am. Yeah. Is it Checking calendar, is it two weeks? I think it's two weeks, which makes me kind of realize that my life is a bit insane. Help. Yeah. You know, I I don't really understand how you manage it. You might as well just stay over there at this point. You you know, you should move in. It's the kind of rhythm where I feel like just as I get home and I remember what I'm supposed to be doing here, and I get back into the rhythms, it's like, oh, time to go. And, that's exactly where I am. That's how I feel. It's, both very exciting and, mildly awful.
Speaker 1: Help. Yeah. You know, I I don't really understand how you manage it. You might as well just stay over there at this point. You you know, you should move in. It's the kind of rhythm where I feel like just as I get home and I remember what I'm supposed to be doing here, and I get back into the rhythms, it's like, oh, time to go. And, that's exactly where I am. That's how I feel. It's,
Speaker 1: both very exciting and,
Speaker 1: mildly awful.
Speaker 2: Well, Brent's travel struggles are your wins audience because he is hosting another meetup. On Friday, September eighth at the next cloud offices. These have been pretty popular.
Speaker 2: are your wins audience because he is hosting another meetup.
Speaker 2: On Friday, September eighth at the next cloud offices.
Speaker 2: These have been pretty popular.
Speaker 1: They've been really fun. I, you know, it's always nice to see old faces. I can say that now because it's been many months since I've met some of these wonderful folks. But always, like, fifty percent are new people, and I think that's really great. I tried with this one to plan it a little bit ahead. So, hopefully, some people are able to travel from areas that maybe were a bit more challenging with some of the you know, lesser heads up that we've been giving in the last little bit. So I'm very much looking forward to meeting some folks. And, gonna try to come up with something special for this one. We shall see. I don't wanna spill the beans yet because I just wanna make sure that it's actually gonna happen. But I'm trying.
Speaker 1: travel from areas that maybe were a bit more challenging with some of the you know, lesser heads up that we've been giving in the last little bit. So I'm very much looking forward to meeting some folks. And,
Speaker 1: gonna try to come up with something special for this one. We shall see. I don't wanna spill the beans yet because I just wanna make sure that it's actually gonna happen. But I'm trying.
Speaker 2: Things are moving behind the scenes it sounds like. Behind the scenes. Machinations as it were. I I don't know. I have a meetup as well. Don't think it's gonna happen. What? I think we've had like two people signing up. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's too close to Linuxfest. Maybe I waited too long. I promised the Spokane group in Eastern Washington in the Idaho area. It's I promised a year or two ago that we tried to do a meetup and then, you know, the last couple of years have been crazy. So I was trying to do it make good, Saturday, September sixteenth at iron goat brewing at one PM. But, yeah.
Speaker 2: as it were.
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I have a meetup as well. Don't think it's gonna happen. What? I think we've had like two people signing up. Oh, no.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's too close to Linuxfest. Maybe I waited too long.
Speaker 2: I promised the Spokane group in Eastern Washington in the Idaho area. It's I promised a year or two ago that we tried to do a meetup and then, you know, the last couple of years have been crazy. So I was trying to do it make good, Saturday, September sixteenth at iron goat brewing at one PM.
Speaker 2: But, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like JB people and an audience member too. I see I'm included on that list, which I think I'm in Berlin at the time. So maybe I should remove myself. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not even, yeah, it's even less than what's on there. Right? I wish I could go, though. I, you know, I've heard so many great things about spoken and I've only driven through and never you know, spend some time there. So I I I was really looking forward to this for the last couple of years, and here I am gonna miss it. Maybe the wildfires are throwing people for a loop. You know, and they don't You blaming me again? No. Spokean has its own fault. Oh, they they have the ability of having fires.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So it's not even, yeah, it's even less than what's on there. Right? I wish I could go, though. I, you know, I've heard so many great things about spoken and I've only driven through and never you know, spend some time there. So I I I was really looking forward to this for the last couple of years, and here I am gonna miss it. Maybe the wildfires are throwing people for a loop. You know, and they don't You blaming me again? No. Spokean has its own fault. Oh, they they have the ability of having fires.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Sorry. They can do that too. Yeah. They're pretty good at it sometimes. Is it smoke in now? I'm I'm sure they've never heard that before. Oh. We'll see. I'll leave it up on the meet a page we start getting some bites, we'll go for it. Otherwise, how many people how many people do you need? How many? I mean, I'd I'd go out there for a handful -- Alright. -- a dozen or so. I'd love to see. I'd love I know we have a lot of people in the area just from how many folks had reached out in the past, but, you know, ego or the audience. Where the audience leads you. And honestly, maybe it's just people figure I'm gonna make the trek for Linux Fest, that's good enough. And I would rather if they could only come to one, they come to Linux Fest. I will agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be it's gonna be a lot of work. We're gonna be on cooking duty on Saturday. We're gonna try to feed the fest. And, you know, we don't even really know how many people are gonna show up. And how many then how many people are gonna want a lunch cooked by us? Yeah. And I mean, we have a lot of experience with doing that in the past, but because of the hiatus and stuff, yeah. You're right. And it's there might be too many brats. I don't even I don't even know how to find the barbecue big enough to cook for, like, five, six hundred people. That's my estimation. It's like, you know, Maybe we'll get a couple thousand because the peak used to be like five thousand. This is a big deal. Are we ready for this? Like, I don't know if we have the means of No.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They're pretty good at it sometimes. Is it smoke in now?
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure they've never heard that before. Oh. We'll see. I'll leave it up on the meet a page we start getting some bites, we'll go for it. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: how many people how many people do you need? How many? I mean, I'd I'd go out there for a handful -- Alright. -- a dozen or so. I'd love to see. I'd love I know we have a lot of people in the area just from how many folks had reached out in the past,
Speaker 2: but, you know, ego or the audience. Where the audience leads you. And honestly,
Speaker 2: maybe it's just people figure I'm gonna make the trek for Linux Fest, that's good enough. And I would rather if they could only come to one, they come to Linux Fest. I will agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of work. We're gonna be on cooking duty on Saturday.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try to feed the fest.
Speaker 2: And, you know, we don't even really know how many people are gonna show up. And how many then how many people are gonna want a lunch cooked by us? Yeah. And I mean, we have a lot of experience with doing that in the past, but because of the hiatus and stuff, yeah. You're right. And it's there might be too many brats.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even know how to find the barbecue big enough
Speaker 2: to cook for, like, five, six hundred people. That's my estimation. It's like, you know, Maybe we'll get a couple thousand because the peak used to be like five thousand. This is a big deal. Are we ready for this? Like, I don't know if we have the means of No.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: No. We're gonna need some cooked crew. We're gonna need we're gonna need the audience to help us with the cooking people run the, you know, we're gonna have to make essentially a manufacturing pipeline of food. And we're gonna need people to run that manufacturing pipeline of food. And, you know, I'm such an idiot too because so, you know, let's say lunch runs eleven thirty to one. Well, we're gonna have to start getting set up around ten. I think the fast opens, like, at nine. Chris. So, like, we're there for, like, the first hour, and then I gotta go start making lunch. And So I'm gonna have to, like, not be there for some of it because I have to be at the booth and on the live stream. So we're gonna need some people to do some of cooking because I'm gonna have to do some of it too. Obviously, I can't do. No. I I just don't know. I we're gonna start a new thing, like the parking lot track. It's my own fault. It's because when we did do our little community feed and we fed, like, three hundred people, it was such a huge hit. It became like something everybody talked about at in the fest organization.
Speaker 2: a manufacturing pipeline of food. And we're gonna need people to run that manufacturing pipeline of food. And, you know, I'm such an idiot too because
Speaker 2: so, you know, let's say lunch runs eleven thirty to one.
Speaker 2: Well,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to start getting set up around ten. I think the fast opens, like, at nine. Chris. So, like, we're there for, like, the first hour, and then I gotta go start making lunch. And
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to, like, not be there for some of it because I have to be at the booth and on the live stream. So we're gonna need some people to do some of cooking because I'm gonna have to do some of it too. Obviously, I can't do. No. I I just don't know. I we're gonna start a new thing, like the parking lot track. It's my own fault.
Speaker 2: It's because when we did do our little community feed and we fed, like, three hundred people, it was such a huge hit. It became like something everybody talked about at in the fest organization.
Speaker 1: And it's announced like Jupiter broadcasting is known for feeding people. Oh, man. Yeah. If you wanna win people's hearts, it's through food. And you've definitely succeeded there.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll just before somebody gets their burger or their dog or something, they'll have to download an episode. You know? It's it's a fair trade. Right? Yeah. I thought so. Or sat sat sausages or something. So if the meter doesn't work out, it's okay because I got plenty of other things to worry about. However, I really would love to get out there. See some folks. It's been far too long. And maybe some folks can't make it to Linuxfest, but they could make it to the meetup. So details at meetup dot com slash Jupyter broadcasting. So let's get into some pretty new developments in podcasting two point zero and something that's taken off in a phenomenal way since our last proper episode. So it's really hasn't been that long, but it's been long enough for this thing to become a phenomenon. And I've been reflecting on why, and I might have, I might have a couple of insights or two. And through this process, I've actually gotten some really interesting insights into the music industry as well. I've been watching a new type of podcast blossom in the middle of what has otherwise been an ad winter. And we've seen more podcast shutting down. We've seen podcast economic models that have completely collapsed. We've seen pod fading since the pandemic where everybody fired up a podcast. And kind of almost seemingly out of nowhere. An entirely new genre of podcast has been created. And the end result is that music artists are making more money from a single podcast than they ever made in their entire lifetime contract with having their tracks on Spotify or bandcamp or other places. It's amazing. And it I started watching this with one artist and then another artist, and now a third artist who have made more revenue through a value for value enabled music feed than they ever did from the commercial streaming platforms. And we've seen a multitude now of music focused podcasts that can legally play music from the artist in their podcast without having to go through a a Spotify contract or without having to get some sort of general license that isn't even really available podcastors, it's only available to radio station. So your podcast has to has to be produced by a radio station. Podcasts didn't have access to this music. And now the middle man has been completely cut out. And when you when you when you cut them out, the artist may significantly more revenue, even if overall the numbers were talking here like a thousand dollars. But if they've only ever made seventy bucks from Spotify over the lifetime, of their Spotify contract. Making a thousand dollars from a single track from one podcast is kind of a life changing event. And so we're seeing WAV Lake WAV Lake and L. N. Beats and other directories that are launching that feature independent music that is value for value boost enabled. And then podcasters are using this with a new podcasting two dot o spec called the value time split to send the boost amounts that are sent while the song's playing during the podcast directly to the artist. Let me back up and explain what I'm talking about here. There is a new specification for podcasting two dot o that can be put in the value block that says during this runtime to this end time, send the boost amounts at this percent a split, whatever you whatever the podcaster determines, At this percentage, some people are doing a hundred percent. Some are doing ninety five percent, so that way they can still see the messages. But but take redirect the boost that come in from this runtime to this runtime. Redirect them to this lightning address or to these separate splits. It's essentially redirecting the splits for a period of time during the song. What that enables is the ability for a podcaster to feature an artist song, an independent artist song, And during the runtime of that song, if you boost into the podcast, the artist receives those sets. And it's taking off like crazy right now. And I got a couple of podcasts I wanna recommend, Brentley, and I know you know which ones I'm about to talk about. So you can make a disclaimer. They're a little crazy. They're a little out there. Bring it on. Alright. Alright. So one that, I think is just outrageously unique. I've been doing this for eighteen years. I've never seen a podcast this unique. In my life, it's called behind the schemes. And these guys managed to put together the most low key easy listen. I think I've ever heard. And somehow They make tarot card readings seem totally normal and appropriate in the card or in the show while they're reading tarot cards, and they'll integrate music and do the value time split. And something else they do in their production, which is very clever, is they publish their pre and post show separately from the main show in the feed. And the pre and post shows are just full of music, and every song they feature is in that value time split and gets a boost. And so they'll play, you know, an hour's worth of music. And every track, the splits are getting redirected to those artists. And it's just they're hanging out on their stream. They're playing music. They're releasing it in an RSS feed. They're playing the tracks. The artists are getting the sets. It's it's pretty neat. And it's a it's a way out there show, but it's like nothing else. It's such a great listen, especially if you, you know, if you're slightly inebriated, I suppose, because I suspect sometimes the hosts are.
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought so. Or sat sat sausages or something. So if the meter doesn't work out, it's okay because I got plenty of other things to worry about. However,
Speaker 2: I really would love to get out there. See some folks. It's been far too long. And maybe some folks can't make it to Linuxfest, but they could make it to the meetup. So details
Speaker 2: at meetup dot com slash
Speaker 2: Jupyter broadcasting.
Speaker 2: So let's get into some pretty
Speaker 2: new developments
Speaker 2: in podcasting two point zero and something that's taken off
Speaker 2: in a phenomenal way since our last proper episode. So it's really hasn't been that long, but it's been long enough for this thing to become a phenomenon.
Speaker 2: And
Speaker 2: I've been reflecting on why, and I might have, I might have a couple of insights or two. And through this process, I've actually gotten some really interesting insights into the music industry as well. I've been watching
Speaker 2: a new type of podcast blossom
Speaker 2: in the middle of what has otherwise been an ad winter.
Speaker 2: And we've seen more podcast shutting down. We've seen podcast economic models that have completely collapsed. We've seen pod fading since the pandemic where everybody fired up a podcast.
Speaker 2: And kind of almost seemingly out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: An entirely new genre of podcast
Speaker 2: has been created.
Speaker 2: And the end result
Speaker 2: is that music artists
Speaker 2: are making more money from a single podcast
Speaker 2: than they ever made in their entire lifetime contract with having their tracks on Spotify
Speaker 2: or bandcamp
Speaker 2: or other places.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. And it I started watching this with one artist and then another artist, and now a third artist
Speaker 2: who have made
Speaker 2: more revenue
Speaker 2: through a value for value enabled music feed than they ever did from the commercial streaming platforms.
Speaker 2: And
Speaker 2: we've seen a multitude now of music focused podcasts that can legally play music
Speaker 2: from the artist
Speaker 2: in their podcast
Speaker 2: without having to go through a a Spotify contract
Speaker 2: or without having to get some sort of general license that isn't even really available podcastors, it's only available to radio station. So your podcast has to has to be produced by a radio station.
Speaker 2: Podcasts didn't have access to this music.
Speaker 2: And now the middle man has been completely cut out.
Speaker 2: And when you when you
Speaker 2: when you cut them out, the artist may significantly more revenue, even if overall the numbers were talking here like a thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: But if they've only ever made seventy bucks from Spotify over the lifetime,
Speaker 2: of their Spotify contract.
Speaker 2: Making a thousand dollars from a single track from one podcast is kind of a life changing event. And so we're seeing WAV Lake WAV Lake and L. N. Beats
Speaker 2: and other directories that are launching
Speaker 2: that feature
Speaker 2: independent music
Speaker 2: that is value for value boost enabled.
Speaker 2: And then podcasters
Speaker 2: are using this
Speaker 2: with a new podcasting two dot o spec called the value time split
Speaker 2: to send the boost amounts that are sent while the song's playing during the podcast directly to the artist. Let me back up and explain what I'm talking about here.
Speaker 2: There is a new specification for podcasting two dot o that can be put in the value block that says during this runtime to this end time,
Speaker 2: send the boost amounts at this percent a split, whatever you whatever the podcaster determines,
Speaker 2: At this percentage, some people are doing a hundred percent. Some are doing ninety five percent, so that way they can still see the messages.
Speaker 2: But but take redirect the boost that come in from this runtime to this runtime. Redirect them to this lightning address or to these separate splits.
Speaker 2: It's essentially redirecting the splits for a period of time during the song.
Speaker 2: What that enables is the ability for a podcaster to feature an artist song, an independent artist song, And during the runtime of that song, if you boost into the podcast,
Speaker 2: the artist receives those sets.
Speaker 2: And it's taking off like crazy right now. And I got a couple of podcasts I wanna recommend, Brentley, and I know you know which ones I'm about to talk about. So you can make a disclaimer. They're a little crazy. They're a little out there. Bring it on. Alright.
Speaker 2: Alright.
Speaker 2: So one that, I think is just outrageously
Speaker 2: unique.
Speaker 2: I've been doing this for eighteen years. I've never seen a podcast this unique. In my life, it's called behind the schemes.
Speaker 2: And these guys managed to put together the most
Speaker 2: low key easy listen. I think I've ever heard. And somehow
Speaker 2: They make tarot card readings seem totally normal and appropriate in the card or in the show while they're reading tarot cards, and they'll integrate music and do the value time split.
Speaker 2: And something else they do in their production,
Speaker 2: which is very clever,
Speaker 2: is they publish their pre and post show separately from the main show in the feed. And the pre and post shows are just full of music, and every song they feature
Speaker 2: is in that value time split and gets a boost.
Speaker 2: And so they'll play, you know, an hour's worth of music.
Speaker 2: And every track,
Speaker 2: the splits are getting redirected to those artists.
Speaker 2: And it's just they're hanging out on their stream. They're playing music. They're releasing it in an RSS feed.
Speaker 2: They're playing the tracks. The artists are getting the sets. It's it's pretty neat. And it's a it's a way out there show, but it's like nothing else. It's such a great listen, especially if you, you know, if you're slightly inebriated, I suppose, because I suspect sometimes the hosts are.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a good time though. This one's a little hard to find, so I'm sure we'll we'll link it up. But, but it you you gave me a little taste of one of their intros, which was lengthy, but not a moment of it was, lame. You know, it was like the entire thing was an experience, like a roller coaster ride of just it was wonderful. So I would highly Phenomenal production over there. I mean, just the The work
Speaker 1: This one's a little hard to find, so I'm sure we'll we'll link it up. But, but it you you gave me a little taste of one of their intros, which was
Speaker 1: lengthy,
Speaker 1: but not a moment of it was,
Speaker 1: lame. You know, it was like the entire thing was an experience, like a roller coaster ride of just it was wonderful. So I would highly Phenomenal production over there. I mean, just the The work
Speaker 2: I know the kind of work they're putting into that show, and it's it's amazing. Everything everything from the artwork to the way they com you compose the show to the clips and the intros. It's they make it seem really easy, but it's they're doing a fantastic job. Another one that falls into that category is the podfather has a brand new music genre podcast called the Boostagram Ball. And it's very much Adam's vibe and I love it. He's got four episodes out now. It's the same it's the same dealio. You know, he it's this one's more of a just a pure music song, show, whereas behind the schemes is kind of a variety show. This is it starts with music, you know, Adam transitions through through a few songs, reads a few boosts from time to time, but it's really focused on the music. So if it's like an hour long, you're gonna get pretty much like fifty five minutes of music probably are pretty close, but they're independent tracks and Adam links to them all. So if you like one, you can you can go find it later, but also all of these are chapter market. That's part of how this works is each song gets a chapter in the podcast. So if you don't like a song, you just skip to the next chapter. Easy peasy. And you can easily get the song name because the chapter and often depending on your podcast player. The podcast artwork, the album art will change to the album art of the music that's playing, and then we'll change back to the podcast after the music is over.
Speaker 2: to the way they com you compose the show to the clips and the intros. It's
Speaker 2: they make it seem really easy, but it's they're doing a fantastic job.
Speaker 2: Another one that falls into that category is the podfather has a brand new music genre podcast called the Boostagram Ball. And it's very much Adam's vibe and I love it.
Speaker 2: He's got four episodes out now.
Speaker 2: It's the same it's the same dealio.
Speaker 2: You know, he it's this one's more of a just a pure music song, show, whereas behind the schemes is kind of a variety show. This is it starts with music, you know, Adam transitions through through a few songs, reads a few boosts from time to time, but it's really focused on the music. So if it's like an hour long, you're gonna get pretty much like fifty five minutes of music probably are pretty close, but they're independent tracks and Adam links to them all. So if you like one, you can you can go find it later, but also all of these are chapter market. That's part of how this works is each song gets a chapter in the podcast. So if you don't like a song, you just skip to the next chapter.
Speaker 2: Easy peasy.
Speaker 2: And you can easily get the song name because the chapter and often depending on your podcast player.
Speaker 2: The podcast
Speaker 2: artwork, the album art will change
Speaker 2: to the album art of the music that's playing, and then we'll change back to the podcast after the music is over.
Speaker 1: This is so slick. It feels like, why were we doing three months ago? Like, this is it's embarrassing. We haven't got to this point yet. You know, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: why were we doing three months ago? Like, this is it's embarrassing. We haven't got to this point yet. You know, this is amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's always been really awkward getting music into podcasts. You'll often find like a lot of podcasts have self created music. Or, like, we forever go had I got a license with Ronald Jenkins. And so, you know, you negotiate those things trade some some amount of value or something for that, whereas this is you can really just sort of I as a podcaster before the show today would just had WAVlake up on my web browser. I was just listening through song. I'm like, oh, I like this one. I'll play this one in the show today. So I wanna test it right now just so because I think I have a fifty fifty shot getting this right. And I think there's only a handful of the new podcast apps that fully support this yet. I think the fountain beta does, but I don't know about the current release. So you may cut if your podcasting two dot o app doesn't fully support this, you might revisit this in a few weeks. But The track should have its own chapter. So if the song isn't your vibe either, it should be really easy to skip past, but should also be really easy to get the name and identify it. If you do like the track, While the track is playing, ninety five percent of your boost will go to the band, which includes the artists and some of the other people involved in the production of the song, And then that value split should switch back to us after the song. So here's looking for you by Jeremy Olivia. I'm There you have it. Looking for you. A boost enabled song will have links to that in the show notes or if you wanna find one that suits your vibe. Wavlake dot com, there's a whole bunch over there, including a top forty chart, which'll help you find probably some of the more popular songs. Now, Chris, I'm curious about what the tooling was like for you. You said it was super early days and you
Speaker 2: Or, like, we forever go had I got a license with Ronald Jenkins.
Speaker 2: And so, you know, you negotiate those things
Speaker 2: trade some some amount of value or something for that,
Speaker 2: whereas this is you can really just sort of I as a podcaster before the show today would just had WAVlake up on my web browser. I was just listening through song. I'm like, oh, I like this one. I'll play this one in the show today. So I wanna test it right now just so because I think I have a fifty fifty shot getting this right. And I think there's only a handful of the new podcast apps that fully support this yet. I think the fountain beta does, but I don't know about the current release.
Speaker 2: So you may cut if your podcasting two dot o app doesn't fully support this, you might revisit this in a few weeks.
Speaker 2: But
Speaker 2: The track should have its own chapter. So if the song isn't your vibe either, it should be really easy to skip past, but should also be really easy to get the name and identify it. If you do like the track,
Speaker 2: While the track is playing, ninety five percent of your boost will go to the band, which includes the artists and some of the other people involved in the production of the song, And then that value split should switch back to us after the song. So here's looking for you by Jeremy Olivia.
Speaker 2: I'm
Speaker 2: There you have it. Looking for you. A boost enabled
Speaker 2: song will have links to that in the show notes or if you wanna find one that suits your vibe.
Speaker 2: Wavlake dot com, there's a whole bunch over there, including a top forty chart, which'll help you find probably some of the more popular songs. Now, Chris, I'm curious about what the tooling was like for you. You said it was super early days and you
Speaker 1: hesitated there saying, you think it'll work.
Speaker 2: Tell me how that went and where you think it's going and how far along we are. Well, so Steven B in the podcasting two dot o community has created a tool called the split kit dot com. And this is tooling that helps you create the value block you need for a podcast for a live stream for a all kinds of different productions, actually. And it'll help sort of visually assemble your default block, which is your podcast, and it will also put together, the songs that you wanna contribute to, but it is a very, very complicated process. And everybody, Kyron, over at the Mirmortals podcast, and the value for value podcast, has created a YouTube tutorial that walks everyone through the step by step process. And it is on their mere mortals, YouTube channel, but I'll just put a link to the video directly in the show notes. Because Karen kinda sell shows you each with time codes, how to do each step of it. And so that was one of the videos I used to figure out how to do the split kit. Because it's not super intuitive. So his guide helps make it a little more clear. And then any podcaster right now that can get access to their RSS feed directly could put it in there. That's the tricky part. And for artists, the platforms like WAVlake and LN Beats, and others, they're they on the back end are doing all of the wiring for the RSS feed for the lightning stuff. So they can just upload their tracks to the platform. And it's made it really accessible for the artists. And then they go sign up with Albie, Connect it, and they're done. Oh, that's nice. It's really easy for them. Yeah. That's great. Mhmm. Yeah. And so artists, some artists have taken songs that they've had, you know, in their back catalog for twenty fifteen years that are great songs, super well recorded. But just haven't had any platform to be published on, and so there's some real gems on there. It's been it's been just what I've been listening to sitting at my desk. Know, it feels like it's sort of about time for the music industry in that sense. Like, we've seen it slowly dying since, you know, I don't know, the last decade.
Speaker 2: And this is tooling that helps you
Speaker 2: create
Speaker 2: the value block you need
Speaker 2: for a podcast for a live stream for a
Speaker 2: all kinds of different productions, actually.
Speaker 2: And it'll help sort of visually assemble
Speaker 2: your default block, which is your podcast, and it will also put together,
Speaker 2: the songs that you wanna contribute to, but it is
Speaker 2: a very, very complicated process.
Speaker 2: And everybody, Kyron, over at the Mirmortals podcast,
Speaker 2: and the value for value podcast, has created a YouTube tutorial that walks everyone through the step by step process.
Speaker 2: And it is on their mere mortals, YouTube channel, but I'll just put a link to the video directly in the show notes. Because Karen kinda sell shows you each with time codes, how to do each step of it. And so that was one of the videos I used to figure out how to do the split kit. Because it's not super intuitive. So his guide
Speaker 2: helps make it a little more clear. And then any podcaster
Speaker 2: right now that can get access to their RSS feed directly could put it in there.
Speaker 2: That's the tricky part. And for artists,
Speaker 2: the platforms like WAVlake
Speaker 2: and LN Beats, and others,
Speaker 2: they're they on the back end are doing all of the wiring for the RSS feed for the lightning stuff. So they can just upload their tracks to the platform.
Speaker 2: And it's made it really accessible for the artists. And then they go sign up with Albie, Connect it, and they're done. Oh, that's nice. It's really easy for them. Yeah. That's great. Mhmm. Yeah. And so artists, some artists have taken songs that they've had, you know, in their back catalog for twenty fifteen years that are great songs, super well recorded.
Speaker 2: But just haven't had any platform to be published on, and so there's some real gems on there. It's been it's been just what I've been listening to sitting at my desk. Know, it feels like it's sort of about time for the music industry in that sense. Like, we've seen it slowly dying since, you know, I don't know, the last decade.
Speaker 1: But this feels like an entirely new economy for them, like, and and perfectly suited because so many artists, at least the ones I know, creating amazing music with the technology that we have now that you can do, you know, your own home studio and all that. So you can be fairly independent. And still produce extremely good quality stuff. And then this is just another way of supporting that, which I think is there's some huge potential here, Chris.
Speaker 1: at least the ones I know,
Speaker 1: creating amazing music with the technology that we have now that you can do, you know, your own home studio and all that. So you can be fairly independent. And still produce extremely good quality stuff. And then this is just another way of supporting that, which I think is
Speaker 1: there's some huge potential here, Chris.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It it feels like independent music too has reached a new quality threshold. You know, like, when I when I think creative Commons music, I kind of think of, like, a step down stuff, like, the music that's in, like, the YouTube music library that every YouTuber uses. That's really kind of You know, standard stuff, that's not what's happening over here. This is true artistic expression on these songs, and some of these songs are really resonating with people. And so it's there's something different there I suppose when people are voting with SaaS. Perhaps it surfaces the really good stuff. Is this gonna be your new way of discovering music? I know you've been searching for a little bit. Well, you know how much I like to play music in the live streams and stuff, and I've always wanted to be able to feature stuff that is safe for streaming. And just just seems like a natural way, but to really make it sing, you'd need the lit tag, you'd need the you would need our live streams in the podcasting Tududu app so that way people could boost the songs and whatnot. But, you know, we'll figure it out. We'll get there. We have a little bit of feedback we want to seek from the audience. And remember, we are trying to get to our next bounty. So this could be a great way to kind of come in and give us some feedback and help brainstorm for a future Jupiter broadcasting show. We didn't rename office hours. To Jupiter signal. Even though we were hinting pretty hard, that might become And it's a great name. You might be wondering why. It is. It is. That, right there, was the realization. We were saving it for a show that I think is a better fit for the name. And I wanna bounce it off the audience today, and I'd like to get your feedback. And then if we get a good response, we'll develop this further. But I'm putting it out there in the universe now, and I'm claiming ownership. So what if the Jupiter signal was a show that featured some of the most important signal in the various Jupiter broadcasting shows that sometimes get lost. A short show that features the new segments across the JB lineup. So give you an example. One feed gives you access to all the news that's covered, say, encoder. So it encoder radio. Couple episodes ago. We discussed the zoom terms of service change where they could use your face and voice data to train their AI models. And we covered that story. And for about two weeks, our community has discussed it because several people weren't listening to Cody Radio. They missed that story. Or there's been a recent crackdown by Oracle in hospitals running Java and it's expanding. And the tactic are absolutely dirty. They do a little switch of roo on you, and we covered that in Kota Radio. It's actually a pretty important story for any IT shop that runs Java. Self hosted's been covering the development of open source self hosted transcription and voice to text and text to voice services. And there's been some major updates there where there was a lot of news around Red Hat, including some more recent news around Red Hat regarding some staffing rearrangements. Some of those we cover in the live streams. We could even cut some of those live stream only things and slice them into this feed. So that way there's one feed where you get The news across the various shows perhaps with maybe an introduction by me, some sort of wrap up. And I think this is a system we could probably pretty easily achieve because as we implement transcripts and as we have chapters, we can pretty easily identify where that content took place. And we can go find that pretty quickly. And over time, I think we could do that in a automated process. Then I would sit down, record the introduction, record the outro, whatever, put it all together. We get it out there in one feed, and it's each bits that you might have missed from a show. I I don't know if this is something that would be useful to everyone out there, but I I have observed that some folks only have time for, like, one show. Maybe they listen to a couple of shows, but they missed that third show or something like that. And so they've missed what's going on. And then later on, this is what happens quite often as people link me the story. Right? Hey, Chris, did you see this? Yeah. And I'm always like, well, yeah. Yeah. I saw that two weeks ago, and I talked about it in this episode. But what I what the signal is that I take from that is That's a topic and a story they're interested in. They just didn't know we already discussed it. And if they had known, they would have heard about it from us a week before they went and found it on their own. And there might be some value there. I don't know. And then maybe you'd listen to that. I could go listen to that code of radio. And then maybe, you know, another code of radio segment where they had a really good take on that maybe I'll just go listen to the whole show. Maybe?
Speaker 2: You know, like, when I when I think creative Commons music, I kind of think of, like,
Speaker 2: a step down stuff, like, the music that's in, like, the YouTube music library that every YouTuber uses. That's really kind of You know, standard stuff, that's not what's happening over here. This is true artistic expression on these songs, and some of these songs are really resonating with people.
Speaker 2: And so it's
Speaker 2: there's something different there I suppose when people are voting with SaaS. Perhaps it surfaces
Speaker 2: the really good stuff. Is this gonna be your new way of discovering music? I know you've been searching for a little bit. Well, you know how much I like to play music in the live streams and stuff, and I've always wanted to be able to feature
Speaker 2: stuff that is safe for streaming.
Speaker 2: And just just seems like a natural way, but to really make it sing, you'd need the lit tag, you'd need the you would need our live streams in the podcasting Tududu app so that way people could boost the songs and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But, you know, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: We'll get there. We have a little bit of feedback we want to seek from the audience. And remember, we are trying to get to our next bounty. So this could be a great way to kind of come in and give us some feedback and help brainstorm for a future Jupiter broadcasting show. We didn't rename office hours.
Speaker 2: To Jupiter signal. Even though we were hinting pretty hard, that might become And it's a great name. You might be wondering why. It is.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 2: That, right there,
Speaker 2: was the realization. We were saving it for a show
Speaker 2: that I think is a better fit for the name.
Speaker 2: And I wanna bounce it off the audience today, and I'd like to get your feedback.
Speaker 2: And then if we get a good response, we'll develop this further. But I'm putting it out there in the universe now, and I'm claiming ownership.
Speaker 2: So
Speaker 2: what if the Jupiter signal
Speaker 2: was a show
Speaker 2: that featured some of the most important signal in the various Jupiter broadcasting shows
Speaker 2: that sometimes get lost.
Speaker 2: A short show that features the new segments across the JB lineup. So give you an example. One feed
Speaker 2: gives you access to all the news that's covered, say, encoder. So it encoder radio.
Speaker 2: Couple episodes ago. We discussed the zoom
Speaker 2: terms of service change where they could use your face
Speaker 2: and voice data to train their AI models.
Speaker 2: And we covered that story. And for about two weeks, our community has discussed it because several people weren't listening to Cody Radio. They missed that story.
Speaker 2: Or there's been a recent crackdown by Oracle
Speaker 2: in hospitals running Java and it's expanding.
Speaker 2: And the tactic are absolutely
Speaker 2: dirty. They do a little switch of roo on you, and we covered that in Kota Radio. It's actually a pretty important story for any IT shop that runs Java.
Speaker 2: Self hosted's been covering the development
Speaker 2: of open source self hosted transcription
Speaker 2: and voice to text and text to voice services. And there's been some major updates there where there was a lot of news around Red Hat, including some more recent news around Red Hat regarding some staffing rearrangements.
Speaker 2: Some of those we cover in the live streams. We could even cut some of those
Speaker 2: live stream only things and slice them into this feed.
Speaker 2: So that way there's one feed where you get The news across the various shows perhaps with maybe an introduction by me,
Speaker 2: some sort of wrap up.
Speaker 2: And I think this is a system we could probably pretty easily achieve because as we implement transcripts and as we have chapters, we can pretty easily identify where that content took place.
Speaker 2: And we can go find that pretty quickly. And over time, I think we could do that in a automated process.
Speaker 2: Then I would sit down, record the introduction, record the outro, whatever, put it all together. We get it out there in one feed, and it's each bits that you might have missed from a show. I I don't know if this is something that would be useful to everyone out there, but I I have observed that some folks only have time for, like, one show. Maybe they listen to a couple of shows, but they missed that third show or something like that. And so they've missed what's going on. And then later on, this is what happens quite often as people link me the story. Right? Hey, Chris, did you see this? Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm always like, well, yeah. Yeah. I saw that two weeks ago, and I talked about it in this episode. But what I what the signal is that I take from that is That's a topic and a story they're interested in. They just didn't know we already discussed it. And if they had known, they would have heard about it from us a week before they went and found it on their own.
Speaker 2: And there might be some value there. I don't know. And then maybe you'd listen to that. I could go listen to that code of radio.
Speaker 2: And then maybe, you know, another code of radio segment where they had a really good take on that maybe I'll just go listen to the whole show.
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 1: So I'd love feedback on this idea. What do you think Brent just hearing this pitch? Yeah. Your pitch is even better than what you have in the show doc. I love it. First, I think it feels to me like I don't know, a fortnightly or however often we feel like doing it, but like a fortnightly greatest hits across the entire network of news stories and our take on it, which is Could be like a Saturday summary or something like that, like, a wrap up at the end of the week Yeah. I mean, that feels like a great way if you had a busy week or something just to dive into the most important stuff. I know it touches a little bit on what an x action news was doing, given the summer holiday there, and the fact that we're already talking about this stuff in some of the other shows. It seems like a a real win The other thing I appreciate is if you like all the shows, then you get everybody all in the same place. Like, it's kind of a really nice, like, hanging out with the with the crew. Show as well in that sense.
Speaker 1: First, I think it feels to me like
Speaker 1: I don't know, a fortnightly or however often we feel like doing it, but like a fortnightly greatest hits across the entire network of news stories and our take on it, which is Could be like a Saturday summary or something like that, like, a wrap up at the end of the week Yeah. I mean, that feels like a great way if you had a busy week or something just to dive into the most important stuff. I know it
Speaker 1: touches a little bit on what an x action news was doing,
Speaker 1: given the summer holiday there,
Speaker 1: and the fact that we're already talking about this stuff in some of the other shows. It seems like a a real win The other thing I appreciate is
Speaker 1: if you like all the shows, then you get everybody all in the same place. Like, it's kind of a really nice, like, hanging out with the with the crew. Show as well in that sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You get a little check-in here from everybody. I I guess I only wanna proceed with this if this is something that a positive response from the audience because it'd be something for them. I don't know how huge, again, this would be outside the JB audience. Maybe. Maybe it would bring in some. But if we could get it pretty well automated on the back end, because we have source flacks for everything, and we have chapter markers, we could probably figure out a system. Because we have similar tooling, that could cut it together for me in a way that's probably a pretty efficient workflow for me, and I just sit down, do the tops and tails, and then we publish because everything's already edited and sound treated. So it'd just be my stuff that needs to get cleaned up and matched. Are you how close?
Speaker 2: I I guess I only wanna proceed with this if this is something that a positive response from the audience because it'd be something for them. I don't know how huge, again, this would be outside the JB audience. Maybe. Maybe it would bring in some.
Speaker 2: But if we could get it pretty well automated
Speaker 2: on the back end, because we have source flacks for everything, and we have chapter markers, we could probably figure out a system.
Speaker 2: Because we have similar tooling,
Speaker 2: that could cut it together for me in a way that's probably
Speaker 2: a pretty efficient workflow for me, and I just sit down, do the tops and tails, and then we publish because everything's already edited and sound treated. So it'd just be my stuff that needs to get cleaned up and matched.
Speaker 2: Are you
Speaker 2: how close?
Speaker 1: How close do you think we are to pulling something like this off? Like, I know on this show, especially we come up with these giant dreams, and sometimes it takes us six months to get there. But, this feels surprisingly
Speaker 1: these giant dreams, and sometimes it takes us six months to get there. But, this feels surprisingly
Speaker 2: Doable. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think. West and I are thinking of doing a few dry runs just behind the scenes, getting an idea of what the manual workflow is like. And then kinda going from there and identifying what we need to do. And I think that's so that's that's probably step one. And I think we could do that while I wait for feedback from the audience. I'm only asking the office hours. Audience. I haven't talked about this anywhere else, but I feel like this is the crew that we should hear from because this would probably be one of the folks we're targeting is people that listen to JV show. Specific. Yeah. This crew is also fine with us screwing things up along the way. So thanks for that. Yeah. So let us know good or bad. We'll take it, and we'd appreciate it in a boost. And I do have an ask this week from the audience. We now have podcasting two to two transcripts for office hours two point o. If you look in your podcast player and it says office hours two point o, you now have the new feed If you're in a one point o player, it's backwards compatible. You just don't get the transcripts and some of the stuff. But if you're in a two point o player, you'll see it, or you can probably find it, you can find it on the office Office hours dot hair web page. I think it gets linked there as well. But I would like us to start experimenting with transcripts. With an eye towards, what if all the JB shows had transcripts? Could we integrate transcript search into notes dot jupyter broadcasting dot com search. That's a pretty handy search tool. Could we make it even better? Could we train a large language model? Where you could go to the large language that, you know, like, the colony model, the colony check. Colony GPT. And you go ask it. In one episode, did Brent talk about wildfires? Right? And it would just go through and give you the episode and maybe give you a paragraph or what? I don't know how it you know what I mean? Like, it seems like were on the cusp of self hosted large language models being useful enough where you could train it against your own dataset and imagine if we could train it against transcript for every JB show. That is wild. I hadn't even considered that, but
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what I think.
Speaker 2: West and I are thinking of doing a few dry runs just behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: getting an idea of what the manual workflow is like.
Speaker 2: And then kinda going from there and identifying what we need to do. And I think that's so that's that's probably step one. And I think we could do that while I wait for feedback from the audience. I'm only asking the office hours. Audience. I haven't talked about this anywhere else,
Speaker 2: but I feel like this is the crew that we should hear from because this would probably be one of the folks we're targeting is people that listen to JV show.
Speaker 2: Specific. Yeah. This crew is also fine with us screwing things up along the way. So thanks for that. Yeah. So let us know good or bad. We'll take it, and we'd appreciate it in a boost. And I do have an ask this week from the audience.
Speaker 2: We now have
Speaker 2: podcasting two to two transcripts
Speaker 2: for office hours two point o. If you look in your podcast player and it says office hours two point o, you now have the new feed If you're in a one point o player, it's backwards compatible. You just don't get the transcripts and some of the stuff. But if you're in a two point o player, you'll see it, or you can probably find it, you can find it on the office Office hours dot hair web page. I think it gets linked there as well. But I would like us to start experimenting with transcripts.
Speaker 2: With an eye towards, what if all the JB shows had transcripts?
Speaker 2: Could we integrate transcript
Speaker 2: search into notes dot jupyter broadcasting dot com search.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty handy search tool. Could we make it even better?
Speaker 2: Could we
Speaker 2: train a large language model?
Speaker 2: Where you could go to the large language that, you know, like, the colony model, the colony check. Colony GPT.
Speaker 2: And you go ask it. In one episode, did Brent talk about wildfires?
Speaker 2: Right? And it would just go through and give you the episode and maybe give you a paragraph or what? I don't know how it you know what I mean? Like, it seems like were on the cusp of self hosted large language models being useful enough where you could train it against your own dataset and imagine if we could train it against transcript for every JB show. That
Speaker 2: is wild. I hadn't even considered that, but
Speaker 1: that is an amazing use case. I know you and I and many of us, and the audience included, I'll often get asked, like, oh, do you remember when we talked about x y z and the notes dot, you know, jupyter broadcasting dot com has been an attempt to sorta help the audience with that. And I think it's done an okay job, but to have transcripts of all the conversations to go in there and some intelligence behind it. That is blowing my mind right now, Chris. Yeah. Some context awareness.
Speaker 1: to have transcripts of all the conversations to go in there and some intelligence behind it. That is blowing my mind right now, Chris. Yeah. Some context awareness.
Speaker 2: Yes. If and it's something that the audience could completely work on on their own because everything's public. The shows are public. The transcripts are public. Source files are public. So if you think if you think you'd like to do something like this, please consider it because I feel like the transcripts open up a world of possibilities. These are some of the ones that come to my mind, but there might be others that you think of, or that we discover just in experimenting with this stuff. Ideas or if you try it, please boost in and let us know so we can keep an eye on it or we can let people know. Maybe people can help join and help out. We coordinate because this this show has been very successful that in the past. So that could be that could be such a cool project.
Speaker 2: If and it's something that the audience could completely
Speaker 2: work on on their own because everything's public. The shows are public. The transcripts are public. Source files are public.
Speaker 2: So if you think if you think you'd like to do something like this, please consider it because I feel like the transcripts open up a world of possibilities. These are some of the ones that come to my mind, but there might be others that you think of, or that we discover just in experimenting with this stuff.
Speaker 2: Ideas or if you try it, please boost in and let us know so we can keep an eye on it or we can let people know.
Speaker 2: Maybe people can help join and help out. We coordinate because this this show has been very successful that in the past.
Speaker 2: So that could be that could be such a cool project.
Speaker 1: Do you think maybe we should send folks to the website Matrix Room to gather, you know, if you wanna get interested and invested in this that, you know, we started working on transcript stuff. Oh, I don't know. Was that a year ago? Geez. That's embarrassing. But it's come a long way. So I feel like there's already a small crew there. Who are interested, I wonder if that's the place to send new folks who wanna get involved.
Speaker 1: But it's come a long way. So I feel like there's already a small crew there. Who are interested, I wonder if that's the place to send new folks who wanna get involved.
Speaker 2: Good idea. Yeah. So we have the website Matrix chatroom. We'll try to remember to drop a link to that, but you can always find those. The general chatroom stuff is at jupyter broadcasting dot com slash matrix. And then we have what's called a space. And in that space, you'll find all the JV rooms, and there's a plethora of them. But, the website one's one of them that, Brent and I check. And that'd be a great spot to talk about this. And then also, you know, give us updates via a boost so that way we can communicate it to the rest of the community and things like that. And help us get to our next bounty because we are after all. Podcast bounty hunters. Right? And with that, let's get to some booths.
Speaker 2: We'll try to remember to drop a link to that, but you can always find those. The general chatroom stuff is at jupyter broadcasting dot com slash matrix.
Speaker 2: And then we have what's called a space. And in that space,
Speaker 2: you'll find all the JV rooms, and there's a plethora of them.
Speaker 2: But, the website one's one of them that, Brent and I check. And that'd be a great spot to talk about this. And then also, you know, give us updates via a boost so that way we can communicate it to the rest of the community and things like that. And help us get to our next bounty because we are after all.
Speaker 2: Podcast bounty hunters.
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 2: And with that, let's get to some booths.
Speaker 1: And now, it is time for
Speaker 2: Krafniks came in with a row of king ducks, two hundred and twenty two thousand two hundred and twenty two sacks. Things that looking up for old nut duck. At this rate of episode funding, you'll never get a day off. I'd also like to ask again if there's any progress on accepting lightning payments, remember ship. It's the only reason I'm not a member. Keep up the great work. I hope Brent's house survived. It did. He's sitting in it right now. I'm currently sitting in it. It is still here. So all good there. Thank you. We really didn't know. No. You know? And I and then I left halfway through, like, when anyone's gonna burn down potentially. So, yeah, don't do that. Lightning payments for membership would be fantastic, you know, especially for like an annual subscription or something to that effect Memberful is the background provider for our membership system. And that's not really under our control payment options are. And we've kind of looked at the membership program as the Fiat option route for people that wanna use traditional banking because that's sort of all pipe with that with Stripe and whatnot on the back end. I don't know potentially I suppose the way this would happen is Stripe would start accepting lightning payments, which is not outside the realm of possibility at all. And then Memberful would have to probably implement that API, then we would be able to expose it. And this is the problem with platforms. And Why I would rather have a self hosted membership program if I were gonna switch to lightning? Because anytime you need to move or adapt, which is the theme of podcasting right now. For anybody that's doing this long term, it's your tip tone and dancing on your feet while playing with scissors. You need flexibility. And the problem with things like Patreon and memberful is they limit your flexibility and your ability to pivot. And being able to move and adapt fast is key to survival on the internet long term. So it's sort of a frustrating thing, Craftnick. But I do kind of take solace in the fact that I think long term, it'll get sorted out.
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty two thousand two hundred and twenty two sacks. Things that looking up for old nut duck. At this rate of episode funding, you'll never get a day off. I'd also like to ask again if there's any progress on accepting lightning payments, remember ship. It's the only reason I'm not a member. Keep up the great work. I hope Brent's house survived.
Speaker 2: It did. He's sitting in it right now. I'm currently sitting in it. It is still here. So all good there. Thank you. We really didn't know. No. You know? And I and then I left halfway through, like, when anyone's gonna burn down potentially. So, yeah, don't do that. Lightning payments for membership would be fantastic, you know, especially for like an annual subscription
Speaker 2: or something to that effect
Speaker 2: Memberful
Speaker 2: is the background provider for our membership system. And that's not really under our
Speaker 2: control payment options are. And we've kind of looked at the membership program as the Fiat option route for people that wanna use traditional banking because that's sort of all pipe with that with Stripe and whatnot on the back end.
Speaker 2: I don't know potentially I suppose the way this would happen is Stripe would start accepting lightning payments, which is not outside the realm of possibility at all. And then Memberful would have to probably implement that API, then we would be able to expose it. And this is the problem with platforms. And
Speaker 2: Why I would rather have a self hosted membership program if I were gonna switch to lightning? Because anytime you need to move or adapt,
Speaker 2: which is the theme of podcasting right now. For anybody that's doing this long term, it's your tip tone and dancing on your feet while playing with scissors.
Speaker 2: You need flexibility. And the problem with things like Patreon
Speaker 2: and memberful
Speaker 2: is they limit your flexibility and your ability to pivot. And being able to move and adapt fast is key to survival on the internet long term.
Speaker 2: So it's sort of a frustrating thing, Craftnick.
Speaker 2: But I do kind of take solace in the fact that I think long term, it'll get sorted out.
Speaker 1: I mean, in a way oh, yeah. No. That doesn't work. Ideas are hard. I was going to say you can just, like, self serve and, you know, send us in whatever show you want, like a member sizable boost. But then you don't get the feeds and stuff that we if that's the hardest part, isn't it? Yeah. The the the sending of the value is the easy part. I I've gotten this all wrong. Don't listen to me. The part that they offer
Speaker 1: oh, yeah. No. That doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Ideas are hard. I was going to say you can just, like, self serve and, you know, send us in whatever show you want, like a member
Speaker 1: sizable boost. But then you don't get the feeds and stuff that we if that's the hardest part, isn't it? Yeah. The the the sending of the value is the easy part. I I've gotten this all wrong. Don't listen to me. The part that they offer
Speaker 2: that we really wouldn't wanna build with the Fiat system is a membership authenticated feed that is authorized by a backing of like a credit card or debit card or something. And if that transaction is canceled or this subscription is canceled, their platform manages the feed access automatically. Whereas if we were to roll that ourselves and process credit cards, we would have to manage user accounts. We would have to manage balances. We would have to manage if the if they're current or not. And then we would have to manage the feed generation and the access to the feed and what goes in that feed, and that's what their platform provides. It's a lot. Right? And I don't really want customer information. I don't wanna be doing my own credit card stuff or writing my own stripe stuff. I don't wanna be doing that stuff. With lightning, and and Bitcoin because there's no counterparty risk and because it's final settlement, it it o it opens up a lot more options. Because it means a payment is finalized immediately when you send it to a business. And what some of these parties do, like memorable is they're taking that counterparty risk And they're assuming the transaction's clearing, but in reality, that transaction doesn't actually clear your bank account for a couple of days. Right? So it's all kinda just turtles all the way down until that clears. Whereas with a Bitcoin or a lightning transaction, anything that's sat based, once it's finalized on the blockchain or once it's gone through the lightning network, that transaction's final. And so as a business, I know those funds are safe and secure. So then it's safer to open up access to something. And it it doesn't really matter if your credit card can be charged or not because Payment either goes through or payment either doesn't. And so it's a one or a zero, and it's a lot more simple. And I think that will enable these types of systems once we have enough user base.
Speaker 2: a membership
Speaker 2: authenticated
Speaker 2: feed
Speaker 2: that is
Speaker 2: authorized
Speaker 2: by a backing of like a credit card or debit card or something. And if that transaction is canceled or this subscription is canceled, their platform manages the feed access automatically.
Speaker 2: Whereas if we were to roll that ourselves and process credit cards, we would have to manage user accounts. We would have to manage balances. We would have to manage if the if they're current or not. And then we would have to manage the feed generation
Speaker 2: and the access to the feed and what goes in that feed, and that's what their platform provides.
Speaker 2: It's a lot. Right? And I don't really want customer information. I don't wanna be doing my own credit card stuff or writing my own stripe stuff. I don't wanna be doing that stuff. With lightning,
Speaker 2: and and Bitcoin because there's no counterparty risk and because it's final settlement,
Speaker 2: it it o it opens up a lot more options. Because it means a payment is finalized immediately when you send it to a business.
Speaker 2: And what some of these parties do, like memorable is they're taking that counterparty risk And they're assuming the transaction's clearing, but in reality, that transaction doesn't actually clear your bank account for a couple of days.
Speaker 2: Right? So it's all kinda just turtles all the way down until that clears. Whereas with a Bitcoin or a lightning transaction, anything that's sat based, once it's finalized on the blockchain or once it's gone through the lightning network, that transaction's final.
Speaker 2: And so as a business, I know those funds are safe and secure. So then it's safer to open up access to something. And it it doesn't really matter if your credit card can be charged or not because
Speaker 2: Payment either goes through or payment either doesn't. And so it's a one or a zero, and it's a lot more simple. And I think that will enable
Speaker 2: these types of systems
Speaker 2: once we have enough user base.
Speaker 1: That's my thing. Do you ever see the possibility in the meantime, let's say? Of having a boost only membership
Speaker 1: in the meantime, let's say? Of having a boost only membership
Speaker 2: that sort of runs alongside the current member full one. Man, you know, I've seen some people playing around with lightning enabled files. So you, you know, you use three thousand stats and you get a download. Oh, interesting. Something like that. I don't know because I'm always gonna want a system that is available for people that don't wanna bother with the SaaS. Because that's, you know, there's two separate customers there. Now the business probably also would like to have both because it's just a nice, you know, deferral of income across two different sources instead of just being dependent on one. So there's pros and cons to all of it really, but it would be nice to have one system that I could manage itself host that just accepted all of it and then worked with trusted third parties for the card transactions. Perhaps, maybe the BTC pay server gets there one day, because you could do almost all of it with BTC pay server except for the credit card transactions as far as I know. BT fifty two comes in with a hundred and thirty one and seventy two sets using pod first, big fan of the network he writes and what you guys are doing. I've been skeptical of the cryptocurrency I'm always down to try something new and I can't wait for episode thirty four. Hope everything's great with Brent up in Afghanistan. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know because I'm always gonna want a system that is available for people that don't wanna bother with the SaaS.
Speaker 2: Because that's, you know, there's two separate customers there. Now
Speaker 2: the business probably
Speaker 2: also would like to have both because it's just a nice,
Speaker 2: you know, deferral of income across two different sources instead of just being dependent on one. So there's pros and cons to all of it really, but it would be nice to have one system that I could manage itself host that just accepted all of it and then worked with trusted third parties for the card transactions.
Speaker 2: Perhaps, maybe the BTC pay server gets there one day, because you could do almost all of it with BTC pay server except for the credit card transactions as far as I know.
Speaker 2: BT fifty two comes in with a hundred and thirty one and seventy two sets using pod first, big fan of the network he writes and what you guys are doing. I've been skeptical of the cryptocurrency I'm always down to try something new and I can't wait for episode thirty four. Hope everything's great with Brent up in
Speaker 2: Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: You know,
Speaker 1: a couple times a year, I hear that, and it never gets old. So thank you. It's great. It's great. Yeah. Thank you also for try out, the south purchase even though you're a little skeptical of it. I would be too. Yeah. I think that's actually the perfect place to be. Isn't it? Try something, but be skeptical. That way, you can come at it with a critical eye.
Speaker 1: Try something, but be skeptical. That way, you can come at it with a critical eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And this is a good time to experiment right now. Because the price is gonna be low. It is low as we record. And I mean, it's not out of the realm of historical cycle possibility for Bitcoin flirt with fifteen or fourteen thousand dollars until next year. It's possible it doesn't depending on just market dynamics because every market is different every year. But Historically, the price of Bitcoin, the year before the Avenue, which is coming up in early twenty twenty four, and the year, of course, before the presidential election, Historically, Bitcoin spends first half of the year going up, and then it spends the letter half of the year going down. And it's not a direct line. It's it goes down and then it bumps up for a little bit and stays there then it goes down, but it's a ladder series. It it's like a step. So it it goes down over time. So to recap before the election before the happening the year before, historically, aft literally every single time so far. Bitcoin spends the first half of the year going up, which we saw. And it it made new highs. It regained like eighty percent. And then it spends the rest of that year going down. And then usually some point in mid twenty in the in the in the which will next year, probably mid year to start going up again. This is fantastic for us. As just people that are experimenting with this as a value exchange and are building these systems and trying to onboard new users, cheaper price is actually better because it it's a lower cost to get in and experiment and all of that. And people can send a lot more sets
Speaker 2: this is a good time to experiment right now.
Speaker 2: Because the price is gonna be low. It is low as we record. And
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not out of the realm of historical cycle possibility for Bitcoin flirt with fifteen or fourteen thousand dollars until next year.
Speaker 2: It's possible it doesn't depending on just market dynamics because every market is different every year. But Historically,
Speaker 2: the price of Bitcoin,
Speaker 2: the year before the Avenue, which is coming up in early twenty twenty four, and the year, of course, before the presidential election, Historically,
Speaker 2: Bitcoin spends first half of the year going up, and then it spends the letter half of the year going down. And it's not a direct line.
Speaker 2: It's it goes down and then it bumps up for a little bit and stays there then it goes down, but it's a ladder series. It it's like a step. So it it goes down over time. So to recap before the election before the happening the year before, historically, aft literally every single time so far.
Speaker 2: Bitcoin spends the first half of the year going up, which we saw.
Speaker 2: And it it made new highs. It regained like eighty percent. And then
Speaker 2: it spends the rest of that year going down.
Speaker 2: And then usually some point in mid twenty in the in the in the which will next year, probably mid year to start going up again. This is fantastic for us. As just people that are experimenting with this as a value exchange and are building these systems
Speaker 2: and trying to onboard new users, cheaper price is actually better because it it's a lower cost to get in and experiment
Speaker 2: and all of that. And people can send a lot more sets
Speaker 1: for a cheaper price. The rows of ducks are cheaper.
Speaker 2: Right. Exactly. And then, you know, price starts going up, that's really what always draws people in. It's counterintuitive and people can't help it. It's just human nature. But mark my words. Things are gonna change when Bitcoin starts getting to fifty thousand and sixty thousand again and the price starts going up, which it probably will. Maybe it's Maybe it's not for another year, but it eventually will. And all of a sudden attitudes are gonna start changing. And people are gonna start aching in like morons. Instead of playing around now, when the on chain fees are cheap, when the activity is low, when the risk is lower, when the price is cheap, This is a perfect time to build these systems and experiment, but it's just not human nature. So I think you did the right thing, VT, and, please keep supporting because we wanna get to episode thirty five. Frosier comes in with a satchel of Richard, a big one. A hundred eleven thousand one hundred and one Sats. Using Podverse, he says, I'm not skeptical about the new model at all. Openness about the SaaS is required and SaaS received as good. It's a good strategy because it gives a signal on how many SaaS descent. Mhmm. Otherwise, it just feels like kind of a random amount. That's actually a really good point because we it's been hard for us to
Speaker 2: And then, you know, price starts going up, that's really what always draws people in. It's counterintuitive and people can't help it. It's just human nature.
Speaker 2: But mark my words.
Speaker 2: Things are gonna change when Bitcoin starts getting to fifty thousand and sixty thousand again and the price starts going up, which it probably will. Maybe it's Maybe it's not for another year, but it eventually will.
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden attitudes are gonna start changing. And people are gonna start aching in like morons. Instead of playing around now, when the on chain fees are cheap, when the activity is low, when the risk is lower,
Speaker 2: when the price is cheap, This is a perfect time to build these systems and experiment, but it's just not human nature.
Speaker 2: So I think you did the right thing, VT, and,
Speaker 2: please keep supporting because we wanna get to episode thirty five. Frosier comes in with a satchel of Richard, a big one. A hundred eleven thousand one hundred and one Sats.
Speaker 2: Using Podverse, he says, I'm not skeptical about the new model at all.
Speaker 2: Openness about the SaaS is required and SaaS received as good. It's a good strategy because it gives a signal on how many SaaS descent. Mhmm. Otherwise, it just feels like kind of a random amount. That's actually a really good point because we it's been hard for us to
Speaker 1: express
Speaker 2: the kind of value we're looking for. I think probably up to this point, you would say. Right? Chris, we took a while to think about that number. We never had a podcast where everybody involved was like, yeah, I'll take the entire payment in Boost. I can I could do that? Right? And it took Drew being on board and you being on board and me being on board and we're It's a smaller team, so it's probably a little more capable possible to do that as an experiment. And we'll see if it works again. Right. We've only had one. I honestly don't know. It could be an anomaly. Yeah. It could be. And it it took us a while to do this one because it's a lot of pressure. Actually, it turns out it's more pressure than I thought it would be to try to do a good episode because we wanna do right by the booth and we wanna reach another milestone. Again, we wanna get another Yeah. You and I,
Speaker 2: And
Speaker 2: we'll see if it works again.
Speaker 2: Right. We've only had one. I honestly don't know. It could be an anomaly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It could be. And it it took us a while to do this one because it's a lot of pressure. Actually, it turns out it's more pressure than I thought it would be to try to do a good episode because
Speaker 2: we wanna do right by the booth and we wanna reach another milestone. Again, we wanna get another Yeah. You and I,
Speaker 1: we felt the exact same way without even, like, coordinating about it. I was like, oh, man, we gotta we gotta do a real banger here. And I don't know if we've got it in the cart.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Although if we keep going, I've definitely got ideas for old time JB host, guest spots, and checking in with members community that people might remember and stuff like that. So I've got a lot of ideas, but we'll see. We'll see. A lot of plumbing happened too during that time. A lot of things we've never tried before. It's been really awesome. Colafara. Probably not getting that right comes in with a hundred thousand stats from the podcast index. And they'd really like Our follow-up related to an issue I mentioned with Tail Scale. I had an outage where I couldn't connect to the studio systems for a little while. You'd like to know what was going on there? Because there'd be a hard pause on his tail scale rollout if die if downtime occurred. And there was no explanation. So I don't know if I ever got to the bottom k. I think I did discover what might have been going on at least for one of the systems. And it might have been a compounding issue where several problems are happening. But on my Bitcoin node, If the umbral services start before tail scale or perhaps if tail scale is running, and then I restart the umbral services, but I don't restart tail scale. The ports that docker has opened up, tail scale seems to be unaware of. And so what I have to do is if for some reason I have to restart the node services, I then need to restart tail scale. Most of my systems, I don't just have like ports hanging open. Like, I've got like Nginx And it's, like, I just connected that, and it's managing all of the it's proxying all the connections. But on the node, this is how EMBra works, is it installs a Docker application, and it opens up a port, like port three thousand or whatever. And I suspect that those were just complete tail scale is completely unaware about those. Maybe if I had restarted tail scale, it could have fixed it. I was wasn't my first move because if you're remoted into a system, when you are remote, you don't wanna really restart the VPN. So I I never ultimately was able to get to the bottom of it, but it has never happened before. It has never happened again.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 2: A lot of plumbing happened too during that time. A lot of things we've never tried before. It's been really awesome.
Speaker 2: Colafara. Probably not getting that right comes in with a hundred thousand stats from the podcast index. And they'd really like Our follow-up related to an issue I mentioned with Tail Scale. I had an outage where I couldn't connect to the studio systems for a little while. You'd like to know what was going on there?
Speaker 2: Because there'd be a hard pause on his tail scale rollout if die if downtime occurred.
Speaker 2: And there was no explanation.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if I ever got to the bottom k. I think
Speaker 2: I did discover what might have been going on at least for one of the systems. And it might have been a compounding issue where several problems are happening.
Speaker 2: But on my
Speaker 2: Bitcoin node,
Speaker 2: If the umbral services start before tail scale
Speaker 2: or perhaps if tail scale is running, and then I restart the umbral services, but I don't restart tail scale.
Speaker 2: The ports that docker has opened up, tail scale seems to be unaware of.
Speaker 2: And so what I have to do is if for some reason I have to restart the node services,
Speaker 2: I then need to restart tail scale.
Speaker 2: Most of my systems,
Speaker 2: I don't just have like ports hanging open. Like, I've got like Nginx And it's, like, I just connected that, and it's managing all of the it's proxying all the connections.
Speaker 2: But on the node, this is how EMBra works, is it installs a Docker application, and it opens up a port, like port three thousand or whatever.
Speaker 2: And I suspect that those
Speaker 2: were just complete tail scale is completely unaware about those. Maybe if I had restarted tail scale, it could have fixed it. I was
Speaker 2: wasn't my first move because if you're remoted into a system, when you are remote, you don't wanna really restart the VPN.
Speaker 2: So I I never ultimately was able to get to the bottom of it, but it has never happened before. It has never happened again.
Speaker 1: So it could it must have been something here at the land. It sounds like, actually, a surprisingly tricky issue to solve, but the whole ports thing is how fascinating to hear you talk about. I hope tail scale? I don't know. Who's responsibility is it? It's a tricky one.
Speaker 1: hope tail scale? I don't know. Who's responsibility is it? It's a tricky one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I can't I don't I don't use that setup commonly, but I don't Really ever seem to recall running into that problem ever before. But how do I It's kind of a unique beast with its own management scripts and the way it starts services, And I don't know. Perhaps if they were going, in fact, I would wouldn't be surprised at all. If Umbroll was using service management through system d, Tail Scale may be very well aware of it. But because they're bypassing that perhaps, that's the gotcha. Half pint comes in with sixty six ninety nine sets and he says it's the same number both ways. And he's right. If you flip it, same amount, that's really cool. Having fun. I don't know why, but I really like that. Yeah. That's great. So he's looking forward to the next one too. Marji came in with fifty five thousand to five hundred and fifty five Sats using Castamatic, which is a real zinger of an app. Boundy Sats, if you Google three three three three three. Apparently, it's the angel number. A sign of love and a reminder to maintain a positive attitude and optimistic vibrations. So enjoy the good vibes along with them sets. Hope the extra downtime from land allows you to relax a bit, and a good luck for the coming chapter. Know what I have spent a lot of my I wasn't sure what I'd spend a lot of my land down downtime doing. I thought it would be sponsor negotiations, but it's just been so dead. There's been none none to speak of, and I've spent it farming. And I've got, like, one of the best tans I've had in years, probably since I went to Texas, three three or four years ago. And, been much more active, physically active, learning a ton. And it's been nice because I didn't realize how much I needed something where I could put effort in and within a couple of days see results. God, that's nice. That's been a nice switcheroo where so many things in the podcasting world are Sort of existential and also going to take multiple years to play out. And it's like, so I'm pushing in certain areas But I'm not even gonna get the results I want for another couple of years. Whereas a garden is like a few days turn around sometimes. And that's been really nice. Well, Chris, that sounds actually like the best case scenario. I know you were maybe hoping for some sponsorships, but actually
Speaker 2: Really ever seem to recall running into that problem ever before.
Speaker 2: But how do I It's kind of a unique beast with its own management scripts and the way it starts services,
Speaker 2: And I don't know. Perhaps if they were going, in fact, I would wouldn't be surprised at all. If Umbroll was using service management through system d, Tail Scale may be very well aware of it.
Speaker 2: But because they're bypassing that perhaps,
Speaker 2: that's the gotcha.
Speaker 2: Half pint comes in with sixty six ninety nine sets and he says it's the same number both ways. And he's right. If you flip it, same amount, that's really cool. Having fun. I don't know why, but I really like that. Yeah. That's great.
Speaker 2: So he's looking forward to the next one too. Marji came in with fifty five thousand to five hundred and fifty five Sats using Castamatic,
Speaker 2: which is a real zinger of an app. Boundy Sats, if you Google three three three three three. Apparently,
Speaker 2: it's the angel number. A sign of love and a reminder to maintain a positive attitude and optimistic vibrations.
Speaker 2: So enjoy the good vibes along with them sets.
Speaker 2: Hope the extra downtime from land allows you to relax a bit,
Speaker 2: and a good luck for the coming chapter. Know what I have spent a lot of my I wasn't sure what I'd spend a lot of my land down downtime doing. I thought it would be
Speaker 2: sponsor negotiations, but it's just been so dead.
Speaker 2: There's been none none to speak of, and I've spent it farming. And I've got, like, one of the best tans I've had in years, probably since I went to Texas, three three or four years ago.
Speaker 2: And,
Speaker 2: been much more active,
Speaker 2: physically active, learning a ton. And it's been nice
Speaker 2: because
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much I needed something where I could put effort in and within a couple of days see results.
Speaker 2: God, that's nice. That's been a nice switcheroo where so many things in the podcasting world are
Speaker 2: Sort of existential
Speaker 2: and
Speaker 2: also going to take multiple years to play out. And it's like, so I'm pushing in certain
Speaker 2: areas But I'm not even gonna get the results I want for another couple of years. Whereas a garden is like a few days turn around sometimes. And that's been really nice. Well, Chris, that sounds actually like the best case scenario. I know you were maybe hoping for some sponsorships, but actually
Speaker 1: Chris's health and well-being and inspiration,
Speaker 2: I think This is the best holiday ever. Oh, jeez. Yeah. And now if I could just stop kicking myself about it constantly and feeling guilty that there's an impending doom. But I fall gracefully into the trusting arms of the audience. Marci also sent me some great information on Nick Bitcoin, which we are digging into. Sir, Alex Gate, the podcasting Tuno consultant came in with thirty four thousand two hundred and twenty three sets across three booths using podverse. And he also feels the same way I do about flying. It's not a fear of death. It's not like a fear of crowds. It's the feeling of being trapped and being subject to a bunch of b s theater. It's like you think I'm stupid? You think I don't see what you're doing here? You're gonna make me do this even though we both know this is bull and then I'm trapped. I can't go anywhere. I'm trapped in security. I'm trapped behind security once I make it through security. I'm trapped in line once I'm in line, then I'm trapped in the walkway because those always take forever, then I'm trapped in the walkway of the plane because it takes for everybody to sit down because nobody can figure it out even though they all done it before. And then I'm trapped on the on the tarmac while while I'm waiting for the plane, then I'm trapped in the air. I can't go anywhere for sure then. And then it lands and it takes forever to get off, and I'm trapped while I'm waiting for everybody to get trapping limelight get up, then I have to go up the walkway again super slow. It's finally, once you're off the walkway, you get out the gate and you get into the general airport, and you know, you can just frickin make a beeline for it. But then of course you're with somebody who had to check bags, Brent. They had to check your bags. So you can't just get out of the airport. You're still trapped for a little bit longer, Brent. You gotta go get your luggage, and of course it takes them forever to get their luggage. So you put a tracker in your luggage so you can watch it and you're watching. But now the tracker's been the metal, so you don't know where your bag is. And so you're just waiting, Brent, and you're trapped.
Speaker 2: jeez. Yeah. And now if I could just stop kicking myself about it constantly and feeling guilty that there's an impending doom.
Speaker 2: But I fall gracefully into the trusting arms of the audience. Marci also sent me some great information on Nick Bitcoin, which we are digging into.
Speaker 2: Sir, Alex Gate, the podcasting Tuno consultant came in with thirty four thousand two hundred and twenty three sets across three booths using podverse.
Speaker 2: And he also feels the same way I do about flying. It's not a fear of death.
Speaker 2: It's not like a fear of crowds. It's
Speaker 2: the feeling of being trapped and being subject to a bunch of b s theater.
Speaker 2: It's like you think I'm stupid? You think I don't see what you're doing here? You're gonna make me do this even though we both know this is bull
Speaker 2: and then I'm trapped. I can't go anywhere. I'm trapped in security. I'm trapped behind security once I make it through security. I'm trapped in line once I'm in line, then I'm trapped in the walkway because those always take forever, then I'm trapped in the walkway of the plane because it takes for everybody to sit down because nobody can figure it out even though they all done it before. And then I'm trapped on the on the tarmac while while I'm waiting for the plane, then I'm trapped in the air. I can't go anywhere for sure then. And then it lands and it takes forever to get off, and I'm trapped while I'm waiting for everybody to get trapping limelight get up, then I have to go up the walkway again super slow.
Speaker 2: It's finally, once you're off the walkway, you get out the gate and you get into the general airport, and you know, you can just frickin make a beeline for it. But then of course you're with somebody who had to check bags, Brent. They had to check your bags.
Speaker 2: So you can't just get out of the airport. You're still trapped for a little bit longer, Brent. You gotta go get your luggage, and of course it takes them forever to get their luggage. So you put a tracker in your luggage so you can watch it and you're watching. But now the tracker's been the metal, so you don't know where your bag is. And so you're just waiting, Brent, and you're trapped.
Speaker 1: You know, I traveled with my mother recently. That was my exact experience. I was like, carry on everything, and she had, you know, enough bags for the both of us. The whole waiting for bags thing, once you transition to the no bags, no check bags, lifestyle is just painful.
Speaker 1: The whole waiting for bags thing, once you transition to the no bags, no check bags, lifestyle is just painful.
Speaker 2: And I don't think I'm gonna be able to wait at all for real Avedore because he got me, the wife, the kid, our clothes, podcasting gear. We're checking bags. Gosh. Goodbye. We're checking bags. Now he also had some follow-up on pod ping. I joked about, pod ping going over XMPP, knowing they're out skates, but, He says, you know, they've been looking at a means to have their own consensus based network with no blockchain required. Shocking, I know he writes, but I don't even like Hive, but it does happen to fit the job. Hive is a blockchain that has a really, really, really fast block time. And now I'm gonna get this wrong. So, Alex, please feel free to give a better explanation. But I believe one of the key advantages is it allows for embedding like JSON data. And so you can essentially create a message bus that the podcast clients can subscribe to. And they can see when a podcast using this pod ping network has updated and then they can go pull the feed and get the updates or dependent how they want to do it. And so instead of every single app, which is how the current system works with the old apps, pulling every XML file every few minutes. So, you know, for, Linux unplugged, that's tens and tens and tens and tens of thousands of podcast catchers every few minutes. Checking the XML file on an HTTP endpoint. But with pod ping and the hive system behind it, the way it works in podcasting two zero zero, is when you update your RSS feed, you send out what's called a pod ping. That essentially registers a message in the Hive network that your podcast feed has been updated. There's new information. It should be checked. And then the podcast clients get that information. Somehow, maybe from a back end, maybe directly. They go update the feed. It's pretty cool. And so they're working on a system that doesn't require blockchain at all. Perhaps perhaps Alex is just a database. Let us know. And he says the Noster topic also has been hitting a nerve. He and another developer were personally attacked by some Bitcoin Maxis because He told them that you could do pod ping over network, over lightning, I should say, and Alex completely disagrees. And that was a bad experience when they tried to cancel us. I realize a lot of developers, especially inexperienced ones like shiny new things, but software architecture has requirements, and I'll add a damn it in there. I I wonder what you think, Alex, if the let's put everything over lightning fad has maybe faded a little bit. I remember About a year ago, this time, everybody wanted to do everything over lightning. Look at this new we got this network. We can send stuff really cheap. We can make and because it does require a slight cost, it won't have spam gonna be fantastic, but it's just simply not the right technology for that. And I feel like we've walked that back, the community. I never thought it was a good idea, but I feel like a lot of people have walked that back, and now there's a more practical discussion about using the right tool for the right job. Maybe Alex feels differently though.
Speaker 2: Now he also had some follow-up on pod ping. I joked about,
Speaker 2: pod ping going over XMPP, knowing they're out skates, but,
Speaker 2: He says, you know, they've been looking at a means to have their own consensus based network with no blockchain
Speaker 2: required.
Speaker 2: Shocking, I know he writes, but I don't even like Hive, but it does happen to fit the job. Hive is a blockchain that has a really, really, really fast block time.
Speaker 2: And now I'm gonna get this wrong. So, Alex, please feel free to give a better explanation. But I believe one of the key advantages is it allows for embedding like JSON
Speaker 2: data.
Speaker 2: And so you can essentially create a message bus that the podcast clients can subscribe to. And they can see when a podcast using this pod ping network has updated and then they can go pull the feed and get the updates or dependent how they want to do it. And so instead of every single app,
Speaker 2: which is how the current system works with the old apps,
Speaker 2: pulling every XML file every few minutes. So, you know, for,
Speaker 2: Linux unplugged, that's tens and tens and tens and tens of thousands of podcast catchers every few minutes.
Speaker 2: Checking the XML file on an HTTP endpoint.
Speaker 2: But with pod ping and the hive system behind it, the way it works in podcasting two zero zero, is when you update your RSS feed, you send out what's called a pod ping. That essentially registers a message in the Hive network that your podcast feed has been updated. There's new information. It should be checked.
Speaker 2: And then the podcast clients get that information. Somehow, maybe from a back end, maybe directly. They go update the feed. It's pretty cool. And so they're working on a system that doesn't require blockchain at all. Perhaps
Speaker 2: perhaps Alex is just a database.
Speaker 2: Let us know. And he says the Noster topic also has been hitting a nerve.
Speaker 2: He and another developer were personally attacked by some Bitcoin Maxis because
Speaker 2: He told them that you could do pod ping over network, over lightning, I should say, and Alex completely disagrees.
Speaker 2: And that was a bad experience when they tried to cancel us. I realize a lot of developers, especially inexperienced ones like shiny new things, but software architecture
Speaker 2: has requirements,
Speaker 2: and I'll add a damn it in there.
Speaker 2: I I wonder what you think, Alex, if the let's put everything over lightning fad has maybe faded a little bit. I remember
Speaker 2: About a year ago, this time,
Speaker 2: everybody wanted to do everything over lightning. Look at this new we got this network. We can send stuff really cheap. We can make and because it does require a slight cost, it won't have spam gonna be fantastic,
Speaker 2: but it's just simply not the right technology for that. And I feel like we've walked that back, the community. I never thought it was a good idea, but I feel like a lot of people have walked that back, and now there's
Speaker 2: a more
Speaker 2: practical discussion about using the right tool for the right job.
Speaker 2: Maybe Alex feels differently though.
Speaker 1: Ginko salad boosted in with thirty thousand Sats over PUNverse. Coming in the hub with the boost. Hey, first boost here. Hey, o. Thanks for all the JB shows. I think your shows really got me into podcast listening in general. I'm all for the boost bounty episode model too, and it needs a catchy name.
Speaker 1: I'm all for the boost bounty episode model too, and it needs a catchy name.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It does it right. Like, the podcast bounty hunters. Something, you know, like, we need a good name. Shoot. This is an area I kind of stink at.
Speaker 2: Shoot. This is an area I kind of stink at.
Speaker 1: I used it up all my good names years ago. You know, I feel like we should have some voting open, but, we're not doing this episode live this week. So,
Speaker 2: boosting some ideas. I I yeah. I I kinda like, podcast bounty hunters or something for some reason. But doesn't that doesn't really sound like it's a thing we're trying to do. It's a bounty. It's a pod bounty. It's I don't know the pod goal. I don't know what it is. Those are horrible, so hopefully not those. But, gink, thank you for the boost. We can send a big list of whatnot to name it. Yeah. Right? Like we just went through some of those, Brad. Right? I think those are We're good at those. Yeah. Listener, Jeff, comes in with thirty thousand Sats to send us some beers, some corns, some popcorn, and a bucket because he knows I got a lot of weeds. Anonomous also sent in twenty one thousand Sats to help get to our bounty. And they say they really like the IPFS podcasting model too. Didn't even know they existed. And they say it's also their second fully funded boost. Thank you, anonymous. Now go set your username so I can, thank you properly. And mister rustic Diversa is back with seven thousand Sats from the podcast index. I'm alive. This is the way a bounty boost. Let's get another episode and a sound bite for bounty boosts. Maybe the mando. And let's hope this thing takes off. I like it. And tell me what you think, Resta Casta. How does this work? For a bounty boost. This is the way. Yeah. Nice. Not bad. Right? Do you like me, Samantha? Nice to see you, Rasta. This is the best. Yeah. That that would be great. We need AI to generate that in the Mando voice. Hal was right came in with forty two hundred sets. Two boosts using pod verse. And he says, right on with Noster. I think Noster has good incentives and long for long term success. K y c free free Bitcoin is the way to go. K y c is the illicit activity. That's know your customer. Purple dog came in with fifteen thousand sets using Podverse. Not really relevant, but I have to type something. My wife got her PhD this week, and the certificate she got Is an n f t no way? There's a QR code on the back that links to a page saying this document is valid. But as far as I know, there it isn't related or pegged to her in any way. It was minted months before she completed her thesis. It's just the sheet of paper that's printed on that is validated. I don't get how it proves anything. Couldn't I just copy that QR code to another document? What's wrong with a PDF and maybe a PGP signature?
Speaker 2: podcast bounty hunters or something for some reason. But
Speaker 2: doesn't that doesn't really sound like it's a thing we're trying to do. It's a bounty.
Speaker 2: It's a pod bounty. It's
Speaker 2: I don't know the pod goal. I don't know what it is. Those are horrible, so hopefully not those.
Speaker 2: But, gink, thank you for the boost. We can send a big list of whatnot to name it. Yeah. Right? Like we just went through some of those, Brad. Right? I think those are We're good at those. Yeah. Listener, Jeff,
Speaker 2: comes in with thirty thousand Sats to send us some beers, some corns, some popcorn, and a bucket because he knows I got a lot of weeds. Anonomous also sent in twenty one thousand Sats to help get to our bounty. And they say they really like the IPFS podcasting model too. Didn't even know they existed.
Speaker 2: And they say it's also their second fully funded boost. Thank you, anonymous. Now go set your username so I can, thank you properly.
Speaker 2: And
Speaker 2: mister rustic Diversa is back with seven thousand Sats from the podcast index. I'm alive.
Speaker 2: This is the way a bounty boost. Let's get another episode and a sound bite for bounty boosts. Maybe the mando.
Speaker 2: And let's hope this thing takes off. I like it. And tell me what you think, Resta Casta. How does this work? For a bounty boost. This is the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 2: Not bad. Right?
Speaker 2: Do you like me, Samantha? Nice to see you, Rasta. This is the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that would be great. We need AI to generate that in the Mando voice.
Speaker 2: Hal was right came in with forty two hundred sets. Two boosts using pod verse.
Speaker 2: And he says, right on with Noster. I think Noster has good incentives and long for long term success.
Speaker 2: K y c free free Bitcoin is the way to go. K y c is the illicit activity. That's know your customer.
Speaker 2: Purple dog came in with fifteen
Speaker 2: thousand sets using Podverse.
Speaker 2: Not really relevant, but I have to type something. My wife got her PhD this week, and the certificate she got
Speaker 2: Is an n f t no way?
Speaker 2: There's a QR code on the back that links to a page saying this document is valid.
Speaker 2: But as far as I know, there it isn't related or pegged to her in any way. It was minted months before she completed her thesis.
Speaker 2: It's just the sheet of paper that's printed on that is validated. I don't get how it proves anything. Couldn't I just copy that QR code to another document?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with a PDF and maybe a PGP signature?
Speaker 1: Does that mean there's gonna be an underground network of Like certificate paper nfts. Is this what we're talking about? You can sell your own
Speaker 1: of
Speaker 1: Like certificate
Speaker 1: paper nfts. Is this what we're talking about? You can sell your own
Speaker 2: yeah. Yeah. If you just need the QR code, that's crazy. And it doesn't prove anything. I mean, the idea let's say all this worked and the idea that your marriage license and your PhD and your, you know, your certificates could be on a a blockchain that an employer or anybody could get access to. Maybe that's useful. I don't I don't know. Maybe. Sounds like a privacy nightmare to me. Yeah. Exactly. It's that's that's my thinking. But the other problem with NFTs is that ultimately It's just sending you to an HTTP endpoint that's sitting on somebody's web server. And is that thing gonna be around for forty years, is that thing gonna be online and serving images and returning results for the length of that person's career? There's no way. No. So it seems like it's probably good for a few years at best. I mean, you know how these things get these systems get redone and websites get broken and people forget about it after a while. I just don't know, man. I don't know. Iraq comes in with four thousand four hundred and forty four stats. Love what y'all do. Love the insights that office hours offers. Here's to episode thirty four. Thank you, sir. You helped us get there. Oppy nineteen eighty four did two four thousand Sats. Coming in with Podverse just to give us some funding sets and Fair Day fedora came in with nine thousand four hundred and forty five sets. Giving Podvers a go. I was having trouble going to the podcast in index website. It's been a barrier to get boost to you guys. I would like to know more about that faraday. But I am super stoked that you hit the bounty this quick. From what I've heard, though, corn can be very tricky to grow. If you haven't already checked the epic garden and open EPic homestead on YouTube. I have been. Thank you for that suggestion. And he also writes that he's interested in IPFS podcasting. The audience gonna basically build their own CDN. It's so cool. You get that going, we should have an IPFS matrix group. Could always use another Matrix chatroom.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you just need the QR code, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't prove anything. I mean, the idea
Speaker 2: let's say all this worked and the idea that your
Speaker 2: marriage license and your PhD and your, you know,
Speaker 2: your certificates could be on a
Speaker 2: a blockchain that an employer or anybody could get access to. Maybe that's useful. I don't I don't know. Maybe. Sounds like a privacy nightmare to me. Yeah. Exactly. It's that's that's my thinking.
Speaker 2: But
Speaker 2: the other problem with NFTs
Speaker 2: is that ultimately
Speaker 2: It's just sending you to an HTTP endpoint that's sitting on somebody's web server.
Speaker 2: And is that thing gonna be around for forty years, is that thing gonna be online and serving images and returning results for the length of that person's career? There's no way.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 2: So it seems like it's probably good for a few years at best.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know how these things get these systems get redone and websites get broken and people forget about it after a while. I just don't know, man. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Iraq comes in with four thousand four hundred and forty four stats. Love what y'all do. Love the insights that office hours offers. Here's to episode thirty four. Thank you, sir. You helped us get there. Oppy nineteen eighty four did two four thousand Sats. Coming in with
Speaker 2: Podverse just to give us some funding sets and Fair Day fedora came in with nine thousand four hundred and forty five sets.
Speaker 2: Giving Podvers a go. I was having trouble going to the podcast in index website. It's been a barrier to get boost to you guys. I would like to know more about that faraday.
Speaker 2: But I am super stoked that you hit the bounty this quick.
Speaker 2: From what I've heard, though, corn can be very tricky to grow. If you haven't already checked the epic garden and open EPic homestead on YouTube. I have been.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that suggestion. And he also writes that he's interested in IPFS podcasting. The audience gonna basically build their own CDN. It's so cool. You get that going, we should have an IPFS matrix group.
Speaker 2: Could always use another Matrix chatroom.
Speaker 1: How many can you have in total? We'll find it. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the corn's turning out. I had some early corn where it was just barely turning yellow and the top wasn't quite one hundred percent done so they're like little kernels on the top and stuff, but the flavor was still pretty good, even though it wasn't fully done. So I'm I'm hopeful. Hadea's dad came over last night, and he left with armfuls of corn and cucumbers just like as much as you can possibly hold. It doesn't even make a dent in the inventory. It doesn't even make a dent. I mean, unbelievable amount of cucumbers and corn. Gonna be gonna be eating a lot of corn. Mary Myrtle's podcast comes in with some handsome four thousand four hundred and forty four stats across two booths using fountain. And, I think we covered one previously, so I I cut to this one. And, they're right. The righteous win of Bitcoin Congratulations on hitting the bounty, Chris, right here alongside with you at putting myself outside my comfort zone to try new styles. Implement more tags and plugging away at making value for value sustainable for myself. I'm also teaching others on the value for value podcast, which is live on Tuesdays. At midnight, which is UTC zero. Yeah. Check out the value for value podcast for more insights. It is he's got something special there for people that are trying to wrap their head around this model. We'll also, again, have a link to Kyron's tutorial on setting up the music time split stuff as well. Keep up the good work, sir. I love watching what you're doing. Smart growth comes in with five thousand Sats finally signed up for a Jupiter Party membership. Well, thanks smart growth. Appreciate both the boost and the membership. It's really making this possible. The golden dragon comes in with a cute little row of duck. There it is. Boos. Glad the bounty was met. Maybe in the future, the bounty met music could be the final battle theme from final fantasy. I did love this music when it came on on the Super Nintendo. Like I had achieved something, and we felt that way with the bounty. We The day we hit our milestone, we celebrated. Oh, yeah. It's a pretty good suggestion, Dragon. It's pretty good. You know, the first
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful. Hadea's dad came over last night, and he left with
Speaker 2: armfuls
Speaker 2: of corn
Speaker 2: and cucumbers just like as much as you can possibly hold. It doesn't even make a dent in the inventory. It doesn't even make a dent. I mean, unbelievable amount of cucumbers and corn.
Speaker 2: Gonna be gonna be eating a lot of corn. Mary Myrtle's podcast comes in with some handsome four thousand four hundred and forty four stats across two booths using fountain.
Speaker 2: And, I think we covered one previously, so I I cut to this one. And, they're right. The righteous win of Bitcoin Congratulations on hitting the bounty, Chris, right here alongside with you at putting myself outside my comfort zone to try new styles. Implement more tags and plugging away at making value for value sustainable
Speaker 2: for myself.
Speaker 2: I'm also teaching others on the value for value podcast, which is live on Tuesdays.
Speaker 2: At midnight, which is UTC zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Check out the value for value podcast for more insights.
Speaker 2: It is he's got something special there for people that are trying to wrap their head around this model. We'll also, again, have a link
Speaker 2: to Kyron's tutorial on setting up the music time split stuff as well. Keep up the good work, sir. I love watching what you're doing. Smart growth comes in with five thousand Sats finally signed up for a Jupiter Party membership.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks smart growth. Appreciate both the boost and the membership. It's really making this possible.
Speaker 2: The golden dragon comes in with a cute little row of duck.
Speaker 2: There it is. Boos.
Speaker 2: Glad the bounty was met. Maybe in the future, the bounty met music could be the final battle theme from final fantasy.
Speaker 2: I did love this music when it came on on the Super Nintendo. Like I had achieved something, and we felt that way with the bounty. We The day we hit our milestone, we celebrated.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's a pretty good suggestion, Dragon. It's pretty good. You know, the first
Speaker 1: five seconds of that tune I was happy with. And then it just kept going, and it just made me happier and happier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man. When you're a kid and you finally beat like the end boss or something like that, it's so rewarding. That's that tune. Has been stuck in my head for years even, like, when somebody, like, achieves something, sometimes I play that tune in my head sound board. Grounded grid comes in with five thousand five hundred satch and fountain. I'll throw the rest of my fountain sat at the JB sandbox looking forward to seeing these new features and hearing about the journey implementing them. Well, grounded. Let me know what you think. It should all be in place for this episode. I like the idea of a JB sandbox where we just, like, you know, build stuff, and then we're like, Let's redo it. Knock it down and try again. So the eighty six comes in with ten thousand Seth using fountain. Congratulations on the bounty being reached and here's some more SaaS for the next one. I set up an IPFS podcasting node within an hour of hearing pocket Office one. These SaaS? Oh, no. These SaaS have been earned through the Helium network and converted to Bitcoin than sent to fountain. Set up an Alby wallet today, and might just move to that. Keep up the great work. Thank you, Sully. Appreciate that quite a bit. And true grits comes in with five thousand stats, glad to see office hours slash the pocket office fee go live. Gonna go check out the new one that just dropped, but I thought I should check out this one first. Thanks, grits. And then, we had Prozac come in with just eight hundred sat I wanted to read it. This is our last boost of the show. He writes, are they right? Love the value for value model, but outside the US, it is hard. Because we have crappy countries. The whole adpocalypse and how I can actually chime in given the global economic parody sent me to subscribe to the self hosted s r e membership. It may not be a full party membership, but as non US dollar money holder, I appreciate the fact there are still ways for us to contribute to Jamie JB more than just going with ads. Keep the regular fee out ways going too. Some places are really hard to get BTC. You know, Prozac, I really appreciate that feedback. And another thing I would love to hear feedback from the audience is how folks outside the US get their sats. And maybe we could give a couple of good tips for folks struggling with that. It's probably gonna be location specific, but maybe there's something out there we can pass along that'd be helpful. So please boost that in if you know. Thank you everybody who boosted in. We have some great totals to get to. We are going with the radical transparency here, and we had twenty nine total boosters, which is incredible. Thirty seven boost total, because some people sent in multiple messages. Some didn't make it on air. Like, they just maybe they didn't have a note attached, but Everybody's boost has been received and read. And we got a total of one million one hundred and sixty thousand five hundred and fifty nine SaaS. This is the way. It's very close. We're just four hundred thousand SaaS shy from our next bounty. I think we can get there. I think we can. It'd be great to even tip a little bit over since the price is dipping a bit. It'd be great to tip a little bit over that one point five million bounty, and we're really close.
Speaker 2: That's that tune. Has been stuck in my head for years even, like, when somebody, like, achieves something, sometimes I play that tune in my head sound board.
Speaker 2: Grounded grid comes in with five thousand five hundred satch and fountain.
Speaker 2: I'll throw the rest of my fountain sat at the JB sandbox looking forward to seeing these new features and hearing about the journey implementing them. Well, grounded. Let me know what you think. It should all be in place for this episode. I like the idea of a JB sandbox where we just, like, you know, build stuff, and then we're like, Let's redo it.
Speaker 2: Knock it down and try again. So the eighty six comes in with ten thousand Seth using fountain. Congratulations on the bounty being reached and here's some more SaaS for the next one. I set up an IPFS podcasting node within an hour of hearing pocket Office one. These SaaS? Oh, no. These SaaS have been earned through the Helium network and converted to Bitcoin than sent to fountain. Set up an Alby wallet today, and might just move to that. Keep up the great work. Thank you, Sully. Appreciate that quite a bit. And true grits comes in with five thousand stats, glad to see office hours slash the pocket office fee go live. Gonna go check out the new one that just dropped, but I thought I should check out this one first.
Speaker 2: Thanks, grits.
Speaker 2: And then, we had Prozac come in with just eight hundred sat I wanted to read it. This is our last boost of the show.
Speaker 2: He writes, are they right? Love the value for value model, but outside the US, it is hard. Because we have crappy countries. The whole adpocalypse
Speaker 2: and how I can actually chime in given the global economic parody sent me to subscribe to the self hosted s r e membership. It may not be a full party membership, but as non US dollar money holder, I appreciate the fact there are still ways for us to contribute to Jamie JB more than just going with ads.
Speaker 2: Keep the regular fee out ways going too. Some places are really hard to get BTC.
Speaker 2: You know, Prozac, I really appreciate that feedback. And another thing I would love to hear feedback from the audience is how folks outside the US get their sats.
Speaker 2: And maybe we could give a couple of good tips for folks struggling with that. It's probably gonna be location specific, but maybe there's something out there we can pass along that'd be helpful. So please boost that in if you know.
Speaker 2: Thank you everybody who boosted in. We have some great totals to get to. We are going with the radical transparency here, and we had twenty
Speaker 2: nine total boosters, which is incredible.
Speaker 2: Thirty seven boost total, because some people sent in multiple messages. Some didn't make it on air. Like, they just maybe they didn't have a note attached, but Everybody's boost has been received and read.
Speaker 2: And we got a total of one million one hundred and sixty thousand five hundred and fifty nine SaaS. This is the way. It's very close.
Speaker 2: We're just four hundred thousand SaaS shy from our next bounty.
Speaker 2: I think we can get there. I think we can. It'd be great to even tip a little bit over since the price is dipping a bit. It'd be great to tip a little bit over that one point five million bounty, and we're really close.
Speaker 1: We're really close. You know, Chris, this really hits me. We mentioned that we were delaying a little bit in recording this episode because we really wanna make a great one, but they almost You know, you've lovely listeners. You almost, like, met the bounty without us even meeting our requirements for the first one. So huge. Thank you there. Really appreciate the the groundswell support. I I don't think I could even convey it because
Speaker 1: We mentioned that we were delaying a little bit in recording this episode because we really wanna make a great one, but they almost
Speaker 1: You know, you've lovely listeners. You almost, like, met the bounty without us even meeting our requirements for the first one. So huge. Thank you there. Really appreciate the the groundswell support. I I don't think I could even convey it because
Speaker 2: it is really scary to think that you know, some of our the sponsors that have remained may be going away. You know, at the end of the year or something like that. And what would we do? I am so grateful we are experimenting with this right now before we are in that emergency situation, and we are figuring this out now. And we are making it feasible with Jupiter Broadcasting's smallest show. This show gets astronomically less downloads than all the other shows. That's incredible. And we're making it viable with the core support of our community. And that's literally what helps me sleep at night. You know, it's that it's that kind of thing. So thank you everybody who steps up helps us experiment with this model. It is the grand experiment, and we appreciate everyone's support. Can also support becoming by becoming a Jupiter party member over at jupiter dot party. Appreciate that support as well. Absolutely. We'll keep an eye on the stats as they trickle in and perhaps we'll have another office hours scheduled sooner than later this time. And I hope everyone got a chance tried out in a podcasting Tourodo app. It is pretty exciting to be rolling out some of those new features. It probably means a slight delay in release because I'm gonna have to manually post the episode to make sure all the stuff's done because I'm manually crafting the feed right now. But we'll eventually automate that too. Just hand crafted is what we like to do. It is a truly handcrafted product, right? From beginning to end with Drew's fantastic production, which has now been financed directly by the audience. That's amazing. And then on the other end, as it's once it's produced and finalized, I'll be doing the finishing touches to get all the podcasting Pluto features on there to get it distributed on IPFS and all that kind of stuff. A complete package is something we've never done before. It's really awesome and it's made possible by head support of the audience. So thank you everyone. And now you gotta get the heck out of here. I gotta get back to work. I gotta go pull weeds. I got corn. Almost hours are over. Door's closed. See you next time.
Speaker 2: you know, some of our the sponsors that have remained
Speaker 2: may be going away.
Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the year or something like that. And what would we do?
Speaker 2: I am so grateful we are experimenting with this right now before we are in that emergency situation, and we are figuring this out now.
Speaker 2: And we are making it feasible with Jupiter Broadcasting's
Speaker 2: smallest show.
Speaker 2: This show gets astronomically less downloads than all the other shows. That's incredible. And we're making it viable
Speaker 2: with the core support of our community.
Speaker 2: And
Speaker 2: that's literally what helps me sleep at night.
Speaker 2: You know, it's that it's that kind of thing. So thank you everybody who steps up helps us experiment with this model. It is the grand experiment, and we appreciate everyone's support. Can also support becoming by becoming a Jupiter party member over at jupiter dot party.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that support as well. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on the stats as they trickle in and perhaps we'll have another office hours scheduled sooner than later this time. And I hope everyone got a chance tried out in a podcasting Tourodo app. It is pretty exciting to be rolling out some of those new features. It probably means a slight delay in release because I'm gonna have to manually post the episode to make sure all the stuff's done because I'm manually crafting the feed right now. But we'll eventually automate that too. Just hand crafted is what we like to do. It is a truly handcrafted
Speaker 2: product, right? From beginning to end with Drew's fantastic production, which has now been financed directly by the audience. That's amazing.
Speaker 2: And then on the other end, as it's once it's produced and finalized,
Speaker 2: I'll be doing the finishing touches to get all the podcasting Pluto features on there to get it distributed on IPFS and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: A complete package is something we've never done before. It's really awesome and it's made possible by head support of the audience. So thank you everyone. And now you gotta get the heck out of here. I gotta get back to work.
Speaker 2: I gotta go pull weeds. I got corn.
Speaker 2: Almost hours are over.
Speaker 2: Door's closed.
Speaker 2: See you next time.